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People calling Trump's new administration "Nazi" are not bright people. Hitler was a socialist, he even had the support of the university students. National Socialism was more of an alternative to International Communism than it was an opposite.

Trump's anti-government administration is MUCH better compared to Pinochetism.

Pictures: "Ángel de la libertad" a symbol of Pinochetism.

Javier Milei's black and yellow lion.

Yellow ties are in vogue.

@cjd That's weird. Ugly. Radiant in combo with black. Maybe they want to say something? 😎

@cjd just because the Hateful Bros are wearing them, does not mean it's 'in vogue'. Like with most of their actions, just because they have bought themselves a stage does not make them more attractive or trendy. It still just sucks.

"Hateful Bros" -> New US government that just won the election.

The people who accuse others of hate seem to be the most hateful people alive today, and usually the most actually bigoted. Like the national socialists of 1938, they are particularly ugly because they think their hatred and bigotry is morally justified and makes them good people.
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@sj_zero @cjd @Lioh Hitler shook Jesse Owens' hand and congratulated Jesse Owens on his gold medal, unlike America. The framing that the Nazis were all about hate for others rather than love for their own is actual propaganda. I am not a Nazi, but realizing this makes it easier to understand WW2 and current events from a more honest perspective.

Fair enough. I've talked before about the difference between the popular history and real history, and when making statements like the above it's typically using pop history to engage with a common shorthand (knowing that I often don't use shorthand resulting in massive effortposts)

Hitler never shook his hands with that nigger.

@BowsacNoodle @sj_zero @cjd @Lioh Rare win Weimerica has over the Reich (though Weimerica put the nog up to begin with lol) that, though sterilizing the Rhine bastards is far better then anything Weimerica officially did so the Reich still wins.

@HWABAG @BowsacNoodle @cjd @Lioh @sj_zero Aye, luckily our Uncle was gone at the time.

@HWABAG @cjd @Lioh @sj_zero Hey you're right. My bad.

Hitler did not meet or shake hands with Owens. That said, there are several reports of a salute or wave. According to sports reporter and author Paul Gallico, writing from Berlin, Owens was β€œled below the honor box, where he smiled and bowed, and Herr Hitler gave him a friendly little Nazi salute, the sitting down one with the arm bent.” Owens himself later confirmed this, claiming that they exchanged congratulatory waves. So, Owens was not personally snubbed by Hitler. However, Owens did feel that he had been snubbed by someone: U.S. Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt. A month after the Olympic Games, Owens told a crowd, β€œHitler didn’t snub meβ€”it was [Roosevelt] who snubbed me. The president didn’t even send me a telegram.”

Tucker has been rocking black and yellow for many years (see his old bow-ties on MSNBC)

I suspect Tucker is a pretty hard-core libertarian

@cjd They coopted the "Socialist" name and the "Workers' Party" name for branding reasons, not because of any ideological alignment, not because of any care for the workers. It was corporatism and rule by hierarchy, and they got away with it by scapegoating the Others, not by their actions but by their identity, just like Trumpism is doing today.

The core of the socialist idea is not the totalitarianism the Bolsheviks decided was was necessary to implement it, it is to remove the class hierarchy that fascism and nazism reinforce. The class hierarchy that Trumpism reinforces.

Horseshoe theory is so tiresome.

> Universal Healthcare
> Public Works Programs (Autobahn)
> Subsidized Leisure - state sponsored vacations
> Price and Wage Controls
> Welfare Programs
> Public Education & Youth Programs

Hitler was a shitlib.

He even implemented Canadian fucking Healthcare (which later evolved into the holocaust).

Canada is catching up.

@cjd @clacke Total nigger and Jew death.

@cjd @clacke if the state does it, it's socialism

@cjd
Given the historical context I wouldn't call it an alternative, so much as an antidote to global communism.

In terms of systems analysis, it has always been small independent systems vs. the global gay system where everything has been conquered and integrated.

@cjd no hitler was not a sozialist. he just used the word socialism to get votes. stop making this bs up. if hitler was a socialist, he would have seized the means of production from all corporations in germany. ig farben, vestag (united steel works), balsen and others were supported by the nazis with slave labor, these corpos never got nationalized.

Yup yup

sarcasm about literal nazi policy

@cjd You know the modern industrial welfare state was introduced by conservatives? By Otto frickin Bismarck? It's not a good signal to point to and say look, socialism.

The connection between public healthcare and concentration camps is such a mindboggling take I don't even know where to begin. There is nowhere to place the slippery slope, helping people live and killing people are opposite things.

What evolved into holocaust was Hitler's wish for a holocaust. It wasn't like "hey let's treat people's tuberculosis" led to "while we're at it let's also destroy the 'unworthy' races". It's perfectly possible to do one without ever doing the other.

@clacke @cjd
>the connection between public healthcare and concentration camps is such a mindboggling take
this is not the connection being made. Neither "public healthcare" nor "concentration camps" are parts of it.
The connection is between
1. Canadian Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID), which loathsome suicide-encouragement and organ-trading program has simply become what "Canadian healthcare" means to online people
and
2. German Gas Chamber Assistance in Dying. Not simply concentrating undesirables in a camp, which the US did at the same time and still does now (they're called "prisons"), but actually killing them.

re: sarcasm about literal nazi policy
@clacke @cjd scientific racism, eugenics, fitness, public health, medicalism all sprung from the same source, they are dissociated now but at that time they were all intertwined

@cjd yah I was just talking about how I need to get one a couple weeks back after I realized most of my ties suck.