It started off as Google Talk, then became Google Hangouts, now it's Google Chat.
It's gotten progressively worse each time tbh
It's gotten progressively worse each time tbh
https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
@realcaseyrollins
How microsoft and google have killed OSS projects
@realcaseyrollins
How microsoft and google have killed OSS projects
>TFW Meta wants to join the fediverse
(I'm no artist at the best of times, and there's no way you're getting good art with my current setup)
(I'm no artist at the best of times, and there's no way you're getting good art with my current setup)
When you start going through lists of instances that block, you start to realize just how petty and stupid the people doing the defederating are.
Some people block my instance because I asked fediblock to add my instance to their stupid list because I'm a doubleplus ungood wrongthinker and fediblock are a bunch of nazi gestapo. So I guess the instances that followed the block recommendation on fediblock are pro orwellian and pro nazi gestapo? They're just doing it because someone (in this case me) told them to.
The most important lesson of our age is that even the most positive and just idea can become evil if you turn off your brain and stop thinking and just do what you're told.
Some people block my instance because I asked fediblock to add my instance to their stupid list because I'm a doubleplus ungood wrongthinker and fediblock are a bunch of nazi gestapo. So I guess the instances that followed the block recommendation on fediblock are pro orwellian and pro nazi gestapo? They're just doing it because someone (in this case me) told them to.
The most important lesson of our age is that even the most positive and just idea can become evil if you turn off your brain and stop thinking and just do what you're told.
In 5 years we'll all be like "Hey, do you remember back when we thought $2M was a lot of money?"
I reused the hardware for it for my lemmy instance so it's down now, but for a while I ran an openstreetmap instance. OSM has a big map that shows all the continents. Then you zoom in a bit, and you can see countries. Then you zoom in a bit, and you can see provinces. Then you zoom in a bit, and you can see cities. Then you zoom in a bit, and you can see neighborhoods. Then you zoom in a bit, and you can see individual buildings.
And this incredibly detailed map of the entire planet right down to individual buildings doesn't know about the stories of the people in those buildings, it doesn't know about individual trees, individual blades of grass, of the bugs in the soil, of the nematodes that are to the bugs as the bugs are to us, to the bacteria and archaea, to the viruses, to the molecules, to the atoms, to the subatomic particles.
And at every scale, you see what's in front of you and think it's the most important thing, but there's everything you can't see at the scale you're at, and all the other things at all the other scales, but it's easy to become fixated on one thing in one place at one scale and forget the universe as a whole is a lot of things all at once.
And this incredibly detailed map of the entire planet right down to individual buildings doesn't know about the stories of the people in those buildings, it doesn't know about individual trees, individual blades of grass, of the bugs in the soil, of the nematodes that are to the bugs as the bugs are to us, to the bacteria and archaea, to the viruses, to the molecules, to the atoms, to the subatomic particles.
And at every scale, you see what's in front of you and think it's the most important thing, but there's everything you can't see at the scale you're at, and all the other things at all the other scales, but it's easy to become fixated on one thing in one place at one scale and forget the universe as a whole is a lot of things all at once.
That I can't explain. Basic features like that have typically worked well for me. (In fact, one thread was going off the rails and I muted the thread, and even the old posts went away in my notifications!
Typically, a good start is to just do a refresh. Especially if you're like me and keep a tab open almost all the time for notifications.
Typically, a good start is to just do a refresh. Especially if you're like me and keep a tab open almost all the time for notifications.
I remoted in (just gave myself that ability last week), the back-end is being pulled using git via the commands recommended on the soapbox page. So the front and back-end are up to date as of just this second. you should be able to reload the page and the latest front-end will show up.
I suspect there's something else going on though, it isn't like there were any major changes in the past 7 days.
I suspect there's something else going on though, it isn't like there were any major changes in the past 7 days.
The front-end is 3.2.0, there's a zip file of the latest version on gitlab.
As for the back-end, I actually don't remember. I'll have to take a look when I get back home. Intuitively I expect I delete the code then just pull from git and rebuild, but it was a long time ago now I set up the auto-update scripts.
As for the back-end, I actually don't remember. I'll have to take a look when I get back home. Intuitively I expect I delete the code then just pull from git and rebuild, but it was a long time ago now I set up the auto-update scripts.
Oh shit, the screen turned white
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUSxX1zPO_M&list=PLx4sFUT7IpJpfH8LmizUBjefHx5NkhjZW&index=7
Every time I hear the konami code I think of the beginning of this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUSxX1zPO_M&list=PLx4sFUT7IpJpfH8LmizUBjefHx5NkhjZW&index=7
Every time I hear the konami code I think of the beginning of this song.
It's shocking, lemmy and kbin have absolutely exploded in the past 2 weeks. It seems like hundreds of new instances, new communities, and overwhelming numbers of new users.
If you're at war, limiting the communication of troop locations, or the exact details on building weapons of mass destruction I can see being limited. But there's not many situations, and we have seen the above reasons ballooned into much more than they should be because murasama must always drink blood
Government regulation of speech that is factually accurate and true is a like the sword Muramasa; once drawn it's cursed that it must drink blood before it's returned to it's scabbard.
That doesn't mean you never draw the sword, but it is something you only do with the direst need and with a grim understanding of the danger the action poses and that you will be hurting someone today.
That doesn't mean you never draw the sword, but it is something you only do with the direst need and with a grim understanding of the danger the action poses and that you will be hurting someone today.
We've seen big tech "embrace open protocols" before, and they embraced the protocols just long enough to kill the thing they were embracing.
If we let them, they'll suck all the oxygen out of the room. It'll be really bad.
If we let them, they'll suck all the oxygen out of the room. It'll be really bad.
I was waiting until I saw something show up in my feed to verify and I just saw it.
Peertube is the fediverse version of youtube. Different peertube instances can connect together so people can view videos from all over the Internet from the one user interface.
I was running some testing figuring out what I could federate with, and I found that if I plug the URL from a peertube channel into my lemmy search, it shows up like a community. Then I can follow it and new videos will show up in my lemmy feed. (I expect the same would work in kbin)
So for example, the minetest videos channel is at https://share.tube/c/minetestvideos/videos -- Just plug this URL into search, and suddenly minetestvideos is a community you're following on lemmy or kbin, and new videos will show up in your feed and you can watch them and comment on them right from here!
It's a really great example of how ActivityPub support lets you connect things you'd never expect to be able to connect. Imagine if on reddit you could just subscribe to a youtube channel!
#feditips
Peertube is the fediverse version of youtube. Different peertube instances can connect together so people can view videos from all over the Internet from the one user interface.
I was running some testing figuring out what I could federate with, and I found that if I plug the URL from a peertube channel into my lemmy search, it shows up like a community. Then I can follow it and new videos will show up in my lemmy feed. (I expect the same would work in kbin)
So for example, the minetest videos channel is at https://share.tube/c/minetestvideos/videos -- Just plug this URL into search, and suddenly minetestvideos is a community you're following on lemmy or kbin, and new videos will show up in your feed and you can watch them and comment on them right from here!
It's a really great example of how ActivityPub support lets you connect things you'd never expect to be able to connect. Imagine if on reddit you could just subscribe to a youtube channel!
#feditips
Truth.
There is no such thing as a post-scarcity society, because something will always be scarce.
There is no such thing as a post-scarcity society, because something will always be scarce.
The thing I really don't understand is that socialism is the transitionary phase under Marx. You establish a dictatorship where the massive state controls everything, and then you magically end up with a stateless, classless society.
And that's absurd, which is why communism doesn't work.
And that's absurd, which is why communism doesn't work.
Reposting from a kbin thread about the fall of reddit because I think it's a good effortpost.
I'm an old fucker, to me it seems like the tipping point started in 2008, and really started to get bad in 2016.
I was already chatting on online forums in the late 90s, and on slashdot starting around 2000. There was lots of discussion, some of it first, but it was just discussion. Not a lot of politics per se.
In September 2001, al queda attacked the world trade center, the Pentagon, and another plane was flown into the ground. This led to lots of discussion online and a massive increase in political conversations.
In 2003, America went to war in Iraq. This was a generational event, and it fundamentally changed internet conversation. Partisanship really started to show up, in part thanks to George W. Bush's "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists" rhetoric.
At some point along the way, I stopped using slashdot. I tried using kuro5hin for a while, then Digg, and eventually landed on Reddit.
Two fundamental changes that happened in 2008 were the election of Barack Obama, and the Ron Paul revolution. In both cases, internet ground game ended up having an outsided impact on politics. Barack Obama ended up being an internet sensation, and his Democrats got the presidency and both houses of Congress by a wide margin. Ron Paul didn't come close to winning any primaries, but the shadow of this campaign cast a long shadow over the Republican party, arguably leading to the tea party faction taking over the party for a time.
This made everyone perk up in politics. Where a few candidates realized before that this Internet thing could be powerful, 2008 showed that it could fundamentally change the game.
While reddit was highly political in 2008, there were many factions. That's what made it a fun place to be -- there were right wingers, religious people, libertarians, liberals, socialists, and social justice advocates. I think at this point, however, forces started to work to take over the discourse. By 2015, subtle changes had taken place to really make anyone who wasn't part of a specific ideology feel unwelcome, including a differential treatment of different groups. Most brigading subs were handled by admins (by shutting them down), but notably /r/shitredditsays which brigaded "bigoted" comments was allowed to stay up. Powermods were previously a problem on Digg, eventually the same problem seemed to start occurring on Reddit where a small group of mods were controlling hundreds of subreddits.
By the time I left for good, it was clear to me that reddit wasn't anything like the place it used to be. Many subreddits either through social engineering or through bots would see posts that were not part of the mandatory orthodoxy immediately hammered into the dirt. "The downvote button is not an I disagree button" clearly didn't apply anymore. Until that point, I was deleting my account every few months and making a new one because doxxing was a growing problem and I didn't want to have my real life destroyed for having an opinion people disagreed with, but eventually the site lost all value to me since I knew you couldn't have discussions on the discussion site any longer.
The successful election of Donald Trump put everything into hyperdrive. Controlled subreddits became graveyards of dissent, and polarization became total as people picked sides. At that point I no longer returned to reddit in any regard because there was just no point.
The cultures of the different highly polarized sides became quite different, all toxic in their own ways. The left became ridiculously authoritarian to keep outsiders out, the right became ridiculously offensive to keep outsiders out. The fact that there was one website (whatever that website was) meant that you could kinda play for keeps -- take over a website with authoritarian moderation or with extreme offensiveness, and you win that front.
My hope is that the decentralized nature of the fediverse helps. When Lemmy.ml or beehaw go too authoritarian, people can just find something else on the same platform that's more reasonable. If certain websites are too crass and offensive, people can go find something else on the same platform that's more reasonable. In it's built-in diversity, the fediverse is set up so everyone can have their space, and the worst that can happen is someone shunts you out of theirs (but you get to keep yours).
I've found the fediverse actually deradicalized me a lot. There are still people I disagree with, but I get to participate in discussions that remind me that whatever the "other side" is has some good ideas, and also I get to see that I actually disagree with extremists of all kinds. Being exposed to bad ideas doesn't make me agree with them, it helps illustrate how bad they are regardless of source.
I'm an old fucker, to me it seems like the tipping point started in 2008, and really started to get bad in 2016.
I was already chatting on online forums in the late 90s, and on slashdot starting around 2000. There was lots of discussion, some of it first, but it was just discussion. Not a lot of politics per se.
In September 2001, al queda attacked the world trade center, the Pentagon, and another plane was flown into the ground. This led to lots of discussion online and a massive increase in political conversations.
In 2003, America went to war in Iraq. This was a generational event, and it fundamentally changed internet conversation. Partisanship really started to show up, in part thanks to George W. Bush's "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists" rhetoric.
At some point along the way, I stopped using slashdot. I tried using kuro5hin for a while, then Digg, and eventually landed on Reddit.
Two fundamental changes that happened in 2008 were the election of Barack Obama, and the Ron Paul revolution. In both cases, internet ground game ended up having an outsided impact on politics. Barack Obama ended up being an internet sensation, and his Democrats got the presidency and both houses of Congress by a wide margin. Ron Paul didn't come close to winning any primaries, but the shadow of this campaign cast a long shadow over the Republican party, arguably leading to the tea party faction taking over the party for a time.
This made everyone perk up in politics. Where a few candidates realized before that this Internet thing could be powerful, 2008 showed that it could fundamentally change the game.
While reddit was highly political in 2008, there were many factions. That's what made it a fun place to be -- there were right wingers, religious people, libertarians, liberals, socialists, and social justice advocates. I think at this point, however, forces started to work to take over the discourse. By 2015, subtle changes had taken place to really make anyone who wasn't part of a specific ideology feel unwelcome, including a differential treatment of different groups. Most brigading subs were handled by admins (by shutting them down), but notably /r/shitredditsays which brigaded "bigoted" comments was allowed to stay up. Powermods were previously a problem on Digg, eventually the same problem seemed to start occurring on Reddit where a small group of mods were controlling hundreds of subreddits.
By the time I left for good, it was clear to me that reddit wasn't anything like the place it used to be. Many subreddits either through social engineering or through bots would see posts that were not part of the mandatory orthodoxy immediately hammered into the dirt. "The downvote button is not an I disagree button" clearly didn't apply anymore. Until that point, I was deleting my account every few months and making a new one because doxxing was a growing problem and I didn't want to have my real life destroyed for having an opinion people disagreed with, but eventually the site lost all value to me since I knew you couldn't have discussions on the discussion site any longer.
The successful election of Donald Trump put everything into hyperdrive. Controlled subreddits became graveyards of dissent, and polarization became total as people picked sides. At that point I no longer returned to reddit in any regard because there was just no point.
The cultures of the different highly polarized sides became quite different, all toxic in their own ways. The left became ridiculously authoritarian to keep outsiders out, the right became ridiculously offensive to keep outsiders out. The fact that there was one website (whatever that website was) meant that you could kinda play for keeps -- take over a website with authoritarian moderation or with extreme offensiveness, and you win that front.
My hope is that the decentralized nature of the fediverse helps. When Lemmy.ml or beehaw go too authoritarian, people can just find something else on the same platform that's more reasonable. If certain websites are too crass and offensive, people can go find something else on the same platform that's more reasonable. In it's built-in diversity, the fediverse is set up so everyone can have their space, and the worst that can happen is someone shunts you out of theirs (but you get to keep yours).
I've found the fediverse actually deradicalized me a lot. There are still people I disagree with, but I get to participate in discussions that remind me that whatever the "other side" is has some good ideas, and also I get to see that I actually disagree with extremists of all kinds. Being exposed to bad ideas doesn't make me agree with them, it helps illustrate how bad they are regardless of source.