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sj_zero | @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net

Author of The Graysonian Ethic (Available on Amazon, pick up a dead tree copy today)

Admin of the FBXL Network including FBXL Search, FBXL Video, FBXL Social, FBXL Lotide, FBXL Translate, and FBXL Maps.

Advocate for freedom and tolerance even if you say things I do not like

Adversary of Fediblock

Accept that I'll probably say something you don't like and I'll give you the same benefit, and maybe we can find some truth about the world.

Ah... Is the Alliteration clever or stupid? Don't answer that, I sort of know the answer already...

No! Eggs! You were the chosen one!

Yeah, in that case you're getting an objectively better experience by stealing. Which happens more than you'd expect...

[admin mode] we were down for the night to try migrating to the new server, but the migration failed. We're on the new reverse proxy, but after dumping the database and reloading on the new server, I couldn't start.

We're limping along for the moment, and you'll probably see some server errors because of it, but unless something changes, we're up and running in at least some state.

Sucks when you do a big thing like that and it fails!

[admin mode] So I went to my data center, and swapped out the ssds for the new ssds that I'm replacing them with, and then I decided to go in and spend some time working on the main server that serves everything.

After changing a couple settings, I noticed that I was stuck in a reboot loop on startup. I figured that the cause was the USB hard drive I use for Mass storage, so I fiddled around with that for a bit but eventually I came to realize the issue was that I turned on hyperthreading.

I started playing with the idea that maybe the CPU is getting starved of power by having the extra load. And you know what? Once I disabled turbo, I was able to complete a task that previously caused the server to crash (systemwide rsync backup). I guess the 13-year-old processor just doesn't want a turbo like it used to. Thanks Obama!

There's good news for everyone but me. The good news is that the site is stable again, and the othe good news is that my servers are both set up for proxmox and I'm starting to work on clustering and the like so fbxl social is rock solid stable. And the downside is that I'll have to set up matrix again which is just a pain in the butt.

With everything working properly again for now, I can slow down and make sure I do this right with proper separation of roles and functions to ensure I'm using better practices as well as doing High Availability properly. Pretty interested in seeing how QUIC support plays out.

I'll keep everyone posted either way.

[admin mode] sites been up and down like a yoyo lately, time to migrate to New hardware and a new platform. This afternoon we'll be down for a while for sure but it should be solid afterwards.

Elvis chan, who has no chin

I don't think that you are exactly on point, but you're pretty close.

Physical media really doesn't matter, what really matters is DRM free. You don't need original physical media if you can make as many copies as you want, and then it doesn't matter if you lose the original disc, because you have 10 others.

For a lot of these games, they will give you a CD but who cares -- you can't start a single player game without contacting an external server anyway!

You have to admit, it's pretty funny that two of the confirmations of the Democrats are freaking out about the most are former ranking Democrats.

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Given the reality of life in Hell Joseon, apparently late stage capitalism isn't an issue either.

I think that modernists are epistemologically stupid.

That doesn't mean they're unintelligent or not good people, but modernity (including postmodernity which is treated as a modernist totalizing ideology by most, although it can be used as a non-modernist tool) is a simplifying and narrowing lens that requires massive blind spots to actually use.

That makes it incredibly useful and powerful in narrow ways, but it also means that stuff that's outside your framework basically doesn't exist. That's why the story of the modern age turned into the great battle between grand ideologies.

Modernist design tended to remove extraneous elements. Modernist writing strove to cut words and try to streamline sentences. Modernist furniture is sleek and lacks adornment. Modernist architecture's height was brutalist cement towers.

Modernist ideologies do the same. They try to remove all extraneous elements and focus on one concept. Classical liberalism contends that freedom is the totalizing element. Socialism contends that equality is the totalizing element. National socialism contends that racial brotherhood is the totalizing element. Fascism contends that the state is the totalizing element. They're all stupid ideologies, but that makes them powerful too.

I saw a video where the host asked why people can't agree with basic facts. At first glance it looks like there's a sinister reason, but I think it all fits into this framework. Of course people only see one set of facts or another, because where facts are contradictory, modernist epistemology naturally suggests that you "pick a side" and only acknowledge facts that fit with their worldview, because anything else is an extraneous element.

Once you've seen it, you can't unsee it, and rhetorical and logical footwork that would have previously looked very impressive just looks like the special olympics in boxing. "Oh yeah? Well you're ignoring THIS fact!" "Oh yeah? Well you're ignoring THIS fact!" and in the end you have people pointing out the obvious, that their universalized and highly rational ideology relies on ignoring most of reality to make it work that way.

Proper discussion ought to actually admit the things the other side is right about, as well as trying to see any other truths that perhaps both sides are missing. The problem is that this results in nuance, and you can't destroy your opponent with nuance -- you can only develop accurate understandings of the world that might help you actually succeed in the long-term. In seeing the other side's points, you might not come to their way of thinking. However, you might come to a new understanding of the overall picture that changes your overall view. The other fact is that you may not weigh truths in superposition the same as other people, so perhaps one thing is more important to them, and another thing is important to you. At least you can accept the things that are true and recognise that you agree on the facts but disagree on the weighting, and no amount of screaming facts you both agree with at each other is going to change that.

As much as so-called "centrism" thinks it's above it all, it's just another modernist ideology, selecting pieces of different modernist ideologies a la carte, but not actually holding all the truths in superposition but choosing which grand narratives to follow in a vacuum. Truly independent thought would not be constrained by whatever you're putting at different poles to get a "center". If one group wants to kill Bob and the other group wants to kill Jim, the enlightened centrist position might be to only half kill Bob and Jim, when maybe you don't need to kill anyone at all and the question is wrong?

Something like Beyesian reasoning is also ultimately used in a modernist way. While it is true that within a narrowly defined system there is a single truth one can work towards, once the scope broadens, truth becomes more multi-layered, and trying to collapse into one truth using Beyesian reasoning actually leads to false confidence in a simple result. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's modernist per se -- some things are just objectively true and it isn't a unique thing to find that truth -- but how it's used can oversimplify complex reality.

The fact that there are multiple truths at first glance looks like the relativism of postmodernity, but in practice it's more like driving your car through an obstacle course -- you're trying to navigate in between the different contradictory things dynamically rather than collapsing them into one truth -- because there isn't one truth, there's multiple and you need to navigate them or you're going to hit a pylon.

I think the accusation of "whataboutism" is a fantastic modernist deflection. Instead of having to start engaging with truth that there's more than one true thing you have to navigate, you just go "you're just trying to justify bad behavior by pointing out other bad behavior!" -- well maybe, but if the alternative data points change the view of the one data point they want you to pay attention to, then that matters regardless of what you're trying to do.

To close out this discussion, it isn't to say that modernism is useless or that it should be totally ignored. It is self-evidently useful in the fact that modernists took over the globe. The problem is that it isn't the only useful tool, and it isn't a sustainable totalizing ideology for everything. The more accurate our models of the world, the more likely we are to create plans that are going to work in the long-term. Modernism itself was always fairly unstable, and really didn't last that long in the grand scheme of things, the modernist era's end beginning around the beginning of World War 1 which has a direct causal line to the French Revolution which some historians generally consider the beginning of the modernist age.

My original post didn't single out any individual epistemological system, and in fact made a point to look at things through the lenses of many different eras. This fits with the superpositional framework I use for analysis which holds multiple truths in superposition including truths from pre-knowledge, pre-epistemology, pre-modernity, modernity, and postmodernity.

Since the overall theme of my analysis was showing that people need to think for themselves, the mention of strength was included because the common conceptualization of the premodern age was of ideological rigidity and just following the orders of the emperor or the noble or the bishop, but the reality was more nuanced, that ideologies could be rigid, but they weren't totalizing in the same way that modern ideologies were, and so you were expected to listen to the king or the pastor, but you also had expectations to act personally in pursuit of the virtues of the era which meant different forms of strength, and that meant thinking for yourself.

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Depending on who you talk to, the modern period can be considered to have started around the time of the French Revolution in the late 1700s. It marked a significant shift in philosophy in the world including industrial revolutions and scientific revolutions. Modernism was the dominant epistemology until the world wars proved it had massive glaring flaws, after which the postmodern period began which we're living in at the moment.

Premodern philosophy required people to be strong in order to survive in a fairly brutal world.

There are a number of ways this strength could manifest, depends on the time and place you're in, since premodern epistemology is in fact the second largest epistemology (the largest being pre-epistemological – and that's debatable since it is more pure biology/cognitive science than a specific epistemology, but I'm keeping with that notion as there's so much stuff built into us we don't even know what's there entirely), and the largest body of recorded philosophy, containing the vast majority of history's philosophies, but the ones that actually survived and thrived did require certain forms of strength.

In terms of greco-roman antiquity, the Spartans believed in martial strength above all, and as a society based on warrior-aristocrats on top and slaves on the bottom, they tended to have that sort of mentality. By contrast, the Athenians worshipped Athena, who was the God of war in terms of clever tactics as opposed to the main war god Ares who was the god of aggressive warfare, so strength was represented as being smarter than stronger -- though Athens too considered a strong body as important as a strong mind. Plato was called such because he had broad shoulders, and Greek philosophers often wrote of the important of a strong body. Athens ended up being the region that produced the philosophy we'd read for thousands of years, and part of that was because of this idea that strength means mental strength. Rome was a practical country, a lot like early America, so they cared more about actual martial prowess, and they tended to lionize strength -- if you wanted to rise in social status, you'd go to war and successfully war, although Rome also valued rhetorical skill and political skill as forms of strength, and figures such as Cicero rose to power through being well spoken, and excellent in politics.

In terms of imperial China, the Chinese Confucian ideal from around the axial age (So just before Christianity) held that people ought to do their best to cultivate wisdom and engage in continuous learning so you can rise to the occasion and fulfill your roles in society to achieve societal harmony. A good head of the household was strong morally, intellectually, and physically(though over time this last one was toned down to focus on wisdom). Neo-confuscianism was a much different philosophical system incorporating several major philosophies, but there was still strength in their philosophy -- for example, the bureaucrat exams in imperial china were some of the most broad forms of meritocracy and although it was unlikely because elite families had resources to produce elite students, a genius from some farming village could potentially become a bureaucrat and raise his entire family's status thereby.

The Mongol empire had very strong meritorious elements, which is why the mongol empire at its height was by far the largest empire in history to that point, all the way from east Asia, through modern-day Russia, and coming towards western Europe. It was an empire whose philosophy very much focused on merit and strength, and while they were ruthless enemies, they would often elevate competent people from the places the conquered -- the Yuan dynasty in China was Mongolian, but kept all the competent bureaucrats in place.

In Japan, people who were strong warriors were considered highly prized, and the samurai ended up being not just strong, but artistic and wise as well, at least in their ideal mythic form by the late medieval period. Ironically, integration into the modern world destroyed the samurai, who were replaced with conscripted armies as Japan rapidly modernized to prevent itself from sharing Imperial China's fate. This happened during the Meiji Restoration which essentially represented the modernization of Japan. I'm guessing that the shogunate collapsed once Commodore Perry proved that the samurai were incapable of defending the country. Just a few black ships collapsed a whole social class because they proved they weren't strong enough.

In terms of Christianity, the story of Jesus is inherently a story of the weakest people in society being strong in other ways. Jesus was not born someone of high classes like a king or a prince, and instead was born a carpenter, and in spite of that he ended up going toe to toe with the Roman Empire, as well as the Pharisees. The model he presents then is as someone of inherent moral and spiritual strength. Early Christianity was largely pacifist until about the 4th century under Constantine, as the Eastern Roman Empire really needed its people to want to fight the various groups trying to take their empire (who eventually succeeded much later). Later Christianity combined spiritual strength with martial strength in the ideal of chivalry, which successfully shifted the general culture of knights from mere brutes to well behaved warrior-aristocrats.

Islam was created by someone who was among other things a military leader who lived in a harsh desert, and so strength is highly prized in that ideology. Religions can be interpreted differently over time, but the Islamic golden age had the Islamic world as the most advanced technologically, highly liberal, excellent militarily, and philosophically, and it was only being beaten down first by the Mongolians and second by the west that they changed into the fundamentalist form we see today (though those strains existed before that point).

There were situations where strength stopped being part of the philosophy of a civilization, and often that marked the beginning of the downfall of that civilization, such as the fall of the western Roman empire, or the end of the Northern Song dynasty in China, or the 9th century invasions of modern-day India by Muslim conquerors.

As for the idea that animals are purely creatures of habit, that's a long discussion for another time, but it depends on the animal. Animals such as crows have been found to have high levels of problem solving ability (and they can be assholes too), and hunting isn't always so easy. The fact that we can understand how they think doesn't mean they don't think.

dunno why, but this image popped into my head.

just feels like this story.
Spiderman pointing at spiderman meme, "The UN" and "The Jews"

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They're not even human beings, because human beings think for themselves. Even most animals think for themselves.

In premodern times, it was expected for a person to be strong, and while it was expected one would accept the given truths of the emperor or the oracle, it was also expected that one think for themselves to the extent that they would not be foolish. Even if you were taking truth as presented by a pastor or bishop, it was understood that theological truths were complex and layered, and that's why a pastor or a bishop was required.

In modern times, rationality was king, and it was always demanded that humans fully act as the rational beings the enlightenment incorrectly assumed we were. You were to follow the simpleminded modern ideology whatever it was, but that ideology was intended to be "rational" and often "scientific", and so you were expected to also be "rational" or scientific. To be irrational or hypocritical was a cardinal sin under rationalism, meaning that a modern man is intended to think for themselves, only rationally.

The postmodern eras we live in has reacted to modernism by claiming the grand narrative is that there is no grand narrative, the objective truth is that there is no objective truth, and that power is the only real thing. For fools like these, they might think that this means that no truth is real, and they should just switch to whatever they're told to believe this week, but in reality it also means that power is real, and to shut down your mind is to give up your power to whoever programmed you last is to give up whatever power you have as an individual and hand it to someone else (presumably someone more powerful, and since hierarchy is considered evil you're submitting to an oppressive hierarchy by refusing to think for yourself). Therefore, even under postmodernism, a man is intended to think for themselves perhaps more than ever to ensure they are making proper use of their own personal power.

In all eras, great men think, and ants don't.

For another animal example, I always like this one: They tested the intelligence of dogs and wolves. It turns out that the two have basically the same neuralogical structures and so if they have to they can both utilize intelligence to the same degree, but a dog will heel to its master and let the master do the thinking while it does the dog things, and a wolf will try to use its own intelligence first. If the dog's master dies, the dog had better learn to think like a wolf, or it will cease to exist.

Fitting, we live in a world where most people's entire bloodlines will cease to exist because they're doing as they're told instead of what's best for them. Population collapses in most countries. A near majority of women childless by 40. A supermajority of men childless by 40. And the ants keep following the path they've been laid.

I have shown that while each era of knowledge demands some adherence to current thought, each era also demands individuals think for themselves because in fact a man is not a piano key and a civilization of unthinking dogs is actually not very useful because while a dog can follow commands, it won't do the things it needs to survive without its masters orders. If you have a situation like today where the masters are powerful but have no care whatsoever for their dogs, then the dogs will die out.

It's interesting. If this was a pro-russia protester attacking Ukraine for the war Russia started using the logic that Ukraine is evil for being attacked and not just taking it, would huffpo et al be calling him an "anti-war protester"?

Hamas started the war with multiple war crimes. Hamas continues the war. Hamas still has many of the civilian hostages they took, perpetuating crimes against humanity.

I bet if Hamas agreed to a permanent ceasefire in exchange for releasing all the hostages immediately Israel would take it, even with the obvious issues in Israel where netnyahu wants it to continue. It would be a cassus belli for peace, and western powers, particularly America under Trump, would likely pressure Israel strongly to take the peace regardless of the strategic reasons for Israel to continue.

You don't need to love the Jews or Israel to realize that. If this guy's loves Hamas so much, he can go live under the reality they created for Palestine. Careful though, they don't enjoy the same civil rights the western world does.

Free speech is important, but it can't be absolute. It can't be legal to commit fraud. It can't be fraud to arbitrarily commit slander or libel. And I'd argue you can't use student visas to have foreign nationals come over and advocate for terrorist governments. Again, if Russia was doing this it would be crystal clear why it's wrong.

Arresting American citizens for the same thing I would be prepared to defend to an extent, but that's a different question, and even that's borderline given that Hamas has done unspeakable things to innocent people including women, children, and babies. Since Hamas is de facto the state of Palestine it really shows the mixed up priorities we see with respect to different actions.

Afuerta!!!!

I think the view of enlightenment modernity as fundamentally broken including liberalism is probably correct -- none of these totalizing ideologies actually did what they were supposed to.

It's pretty funny.

some of those dumbfucks tattooed the vaccine card showing they took Trump's vaccine on their skin permanently.

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