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@jeffcliff @apropos @crisp One of the biggest takeaways for me from all this is everything you're saying.

They took away 40 million people's fundamental human rights for over a year so they wouldn't inconvenience a few thousand people who cross the border on a regular basis. Anybody in power right now needs to be retired from government forever, and that's if we're a ridiculously civilized society.

@jeffcliff I reached out to her once because I'm opposed to the way she handled skilled trades as the minister of labor. Typical ivory tower elite, didn't even care to hear what I had to say, she had her stupid agenda and nothing was going to let her deviate from it.

@jeffcliff I think the more realistic strategy would be to convince the people in those areas that change would be better for them instead of trying to jam change down their throats using voters in downtown Toronto. You're going to have a unity problem that way -- you already do.

Saskatchewan has no reason they couldn't be a hydroelectric powerhouse like Manitoba, and then you end up with a lower cost of living because electricity can be cheap as dirt. Low power electricity is a boon for individuals and also a boon for industry. It opens doors that wouldn't be open otherwise.

Alberta would be a tougher sell on hydroelectric power but it definitely is an option there too and could even help the same ways. The bigger thing I think would be to convince the businesses and the government there that letting the CO2 just flash off into the atmosphere is wasteful. There's money to be made in developing processes to turn that CO2 back into something solid that'll stick around for a while.

We're seeing a lot of division in Canada and in the US, and I think increased federalism is the reason. Let people run their regions, and try to change their minds instead of trying to dominate them. It's the right way to run things. Frankly, some provinces are run better than others, and I don't want people from the worse run provinces dictating how people in the better run provinces should live.
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@jeffcliff Manitoba is mostly prairie, but I know that as you get further north the landscape starts looking a lot more like northern Ontario. Manitoba I assumed that Saskatchewan was the same, since flin flon is like a 15 minute drive from the border and by that latitude you're already getting pretty rugged.

I sympathize with your first point, I don't know much about it but I believe it.

The third point I think is going to hit everyone soon. I talk a lot about government debt because everyone thinks it's free money but in reality it's just like a payday loan -- Get something today and pay for it forever. This past year is going to haunt everyone, and soon.