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@lavaender tbf, it isn't the parents fault the doctors are entirely unpersuasive.

I could try to convince you of all sort of true things like lack of water or food will kill you and if I do a bad job of convincing you of that on a statistical level, then isn't that sort of on me?
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@lavaender If you're gonna be like that, I'm drinking nothing but beer from now on! So nyeh!