@jeffcliff Protesters just have carte blanche to do whatever now. Started quite some time ago. Remember when some protesters cut the country in half by taking the rail system hostage shortly before the world ended? The authorities have no moral authority anymore, so they can only sit back and watch and apologize to the protesters for existing.
This is our lives now.
This is our lives now.
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@jeffcliff then you weren't at that protest.
@jeffcliff I should add because the other one successfully stopped rail travel and there were questions about basic supplies in eastern Canada because of it.
@jeffcliff Without disrespecting the cause you were protesting for, good.
It shouldn't be possible for any given political group to shut down critical infrastructure just because they have a message they want to get across.
You might think it's ok this time because you agreed with the political cause, but it could just as easily be a KKK rally next time. It could be opposing political parties shutting down the country every day or in multiple places all the time. People expressing their views without being challenged when they disrupt others like this would be able to take the country hostage at any time.
The two situations of shutting down the rail system and the PPC holding a political rally aren't really the same. People were allowed to have their rally, they just weren't allowed to shut down infrastructure they had no right to. By contrast, the PPC was also allowed to have their rally as well.
As far as I'm concerned, the government has no business shutting down peaceful rallies at all. I may disagree with some of the demonstrations indigenous groups put on (I've lived in northern Manitoba and I've never lived in downtown Toronto, making many of the arguments catering to that demographic unpersuasive), but if they're making their voices heard that should be totally protected speech, regardless of the message of that rally.
And similarly, the moment the government starts allowing the violation of people's rights en masse by a demonstration (freedom of movement being a basic human right), then that's a problem. Making your voice heard isn't the same as putting a knife to someone's throat and making demands. When that happened here, it was to me a massive failure of the federal government.
Although I wouldn't (and didn't) go to any rally during the pandemic, I supported the right of both BLM and the PPC (who have both had large rallies during the pandemic) to do so. Shutting it down over concerns of a virus is to me getting our priorities backwards.
Unfortunately, we have our priorities backwards, and it's a disgrace to the people who have fought for our basic human rights throughout history, from pushing against the crown under absolute monarchies, to fighting in world war 2, to pushing for universal civil rights.
It shouldn't be possible for any given political group to shut down critical infrastructure just because they have a message they want to get across.
You might think it's ok this time because you agreed with the political cause, but it could just as easily be a KKK rally next time. It could be opposing political parties shutting down the country every day or in multiple places all the time. People expressing their views without being challenged when they disrupt others like this would be able to take the country hostage at any time.
The two situations of shutting down the rail system and the PPC holding a political rally aren't really the same. People were allowed to have their rally, they just weren't allowed to shut down infrastructure they had no right to. By contrast, the PPC was also allowed to have their rally as well.
As far as I'm concerned, the government has no business shutting down peaceful rallies at all. I may disagree with some of the demonstrations indigenous groups put on (I've lived in northern Manitoba and I've never lived in downtown Toronto, making many of the arguments catering to that demographic unpersuasive), but if they're making their voices heard that should be totally protected speech, regardless of the message of that rally.
And similarly, the moment the government starts allowing the violation of people's rights en masse by a demonstration (freedom of movement being a basic human right), then that's a problem. Making your voice heard isn't the same as putting a knife to someone's throat and making demands. When that happened here, it was to me a massive failure of the federal government.
Although I wouldn't (and didn't) go to any rally during the pandemic, I supported the right of both BLM and the PPC (who have both had large rallies during the pandemic) to do so. Shutting it down over concerns of a virus is to me getting our priorities backwards.
Unfortunately, we have our priorities backwards, and it's a disgrace to the people who have fought for our basic human rights throughout history, from pushing against the crown under absolute monarchies, to fighting in world war 2, to pushing for universal civil rights.