@PawelK @Humpleupagus @SirRyan @b3nji I have issues with the big science journals. There are systemic problems in science, and all someone needs to do is try to pronounce the titles of 3 articles to know what they are.
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@PawelK @Humpleupagus @b3nji @SirRyan See, this is the dangerous effect of this way of thinking.
It doesn't matter who you are, truth doesn't care who you are. The current establishment thing that you're talking about does care about who you are. That's a problem.
Back in the 1800s, midwives delivering babies were 10 times more likely to come out with a living mother and a living child compared to the learned doctors of the day. The reason turned out to be that doctors worked with cadavers and got covered in viruses and bacteria and went out with a slight washing of their hands before handling pregnant women and babies. The learned doctors didn't understand germ theory yet, and the one guy who was right was absolutely destroyed for this theories on "cadaverous particles" that the establishment didn't appreciate, despite the fact that he was right, causing countless deaths. Today he is vindicated.
The Mpemba Effect is an unintuitive effect where hot water freezes faster than cold water. It was discovered by a high school student named Mpemba in Tanzania. He noticed this phenomenon while making ice cream and was curious enough to make note of it. His teachers did not believe it was possible, and it took several years of experimentation until the scientific community finally accepted his discovery.
The focus on who you are in our politics and our scientific establishment is anti-scientific. It's against the whole concept of science. It isn't about who you are, it's about whether you're right.
Now, is a particular hypothesis correct? Now that's a more important question than who created it, or who supports it. That's the question we need to answer.
Of course, They laughed at Albert Einstein, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown, so it's important not to commit the opposite fallacy and assume that just because the source *Isn't* from the establishment that it's more likely to be correct. Only things that are true are true, regardless of the source.
It doesn't matter who you are, truth doesn't care who you are. The current establishment thing that you're talking about does care about who you are. That's a problem.
Back in the 1800s, midwives delivering babies were 10 times more likely to come out with a living mother and a living child compared to the learned doctors of the day. The reason turned out to be that doctors worked with cadavers and got covered in viruses and bacteria and went out with a slight washing of their hands before handling pregnant women and babies. The learned doctors didn't understand germ theory yet, and the one guy who was right was absolutely destroyed for this theories on "cadaverous particles" that the establishment didn't appreciate, despite the fact that he was right, causing countless deaths. Today he is vindicated.
The Mpemba Effect is an unintuitive effect where hot water freezes faster than cold water. It was discovered by a high school student named Mpemba in Tanzania. He noticed this phenomenon while making ice cream and was curious enough to make note of it. His teachers did not believe it was possible, and it took several years of experimentation until the scientific community finally accepted his discovery.
The focus on who you are in our politics and our scientific establishment is anti-scientific. It's against the whole concept of science. It isn't about who you are, it's about whether you're right.
Now, is a particular hypothesis correct? Now that's a more important question than who created it, or who supports it. That's the question we need to answer.
Of course, They laughed at Albert Einstein, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown, so it's important not to commit the opposite fallacy and assume that just because the source *Isn't* from the establishment that it's more likely to be correct. Only things that are true are true, regardless of the source.
@PawelK @Humpleupagus @b3nji @SirRyan Sorry, I just keep remembering that the "totally not contrarian" Dr. Fauci headed up an organization that said masks don't work, then they do, then later when asked about the change said "Obviously we lied because we didn't want you plebs using our masks". Then later it turned out his organization sponsored research into making bat coronaviruses transmissible to humans.
Looks totally not loony or dangerous to me! So glad he's leading the biggest crowds!
Really looking forward to the asbestos mandates.
Looks totally not loony or dangerous to me! So glad he's leading the biggest crowds!
Really looking forward to the asbestos mandates.
@PawelK @Humpleupagus @b3nji @SirRyan given that many researchers are paid for by grants from organizations like his, doesn't that contaigen of politicization have to spread to front-line researchers?
If researching the truth is going to get you blacklisted from all the main sources of grants, and the political elite will reward you for publishing falsehoods wrapped up in obtuse language, how can that not affect the end product?
If researching the truth is going to get you blacklisted from all the main sources of grants, and the political elite will reward you for publishing falsehoods wrapped up in obtuse language, how can that not affect the end product?