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Think about the fact that they call guys like @RekietaLaw or Jordan Peterson, who have both been married for a long time and had multiple children incels.

People who can't maintain a healthy relationship of any kind calling people with long happy marriages incel is one of those absurdities you really have to appreciate.

I feel like people would say the same about me.

I'm aware of the assumptions people make about me based on my irl public persona.

Reminds me of this episode of Criminal minds where one of the character calls Hochner (the stereotypical straightlaced G-Man) out for being a narccisist. Then he and his entire team go around calling out all his faults "I have no sense of humor..." and he goes on for like 5 minutes then finishes "But I do listen to my team. He's clearly trying to send a message." The "List agent hochner's worst qualities" brainstorm is one of my favorite moments in the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGq2rX2E4UY

In the same way, you can say a lot of things about both men, lots of legitimate criticisms including ones that they directly admit to. Just not this one specific thing they absurdly get accused of.

I mean... You ever *been* to Northern Alberta?

Anywhere in really Northern Canada?
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