Both posts make a good point.
On one hand, as I wrote in The Graysonian Ethic, everyone has urges that are bad, but the key is to recognise that those urges are bad and that while they are of course a part of you, you don't start identifying yourself by them and making them the core part of your identity and start going around forming communities full of people whose commonality is that they have bad urges. I see a beautiful woman walking down the street, not only do I not immediately walk up and molest them, but I don't hit on them either since I'm happily married, and I don't go online and join the molester community or the cheating on my wife community "but don't worry I won't do it I swear" because I'm not a psychopath.
On the other hand, lots of people who are called incels are clearly not incels. Nick Rekieta of Rekieta Law has 6 kids and a gorgeous wife -- he isn't celibate, involuntary or otherwise. He's called that because he fought for a guy he thought was metoo'd falsely and he didn't bend the knee to the woke lynch mob. Same with lots of labels -- People have views that aren't racist but they are called racist because someone goes "What they're really saying is" with no evidence. Remember the recent kerfuffle where people claimed not using spices is racist? Anyone with a cursory knowledge of history would know how absurd that idea is (for much of western history, slathering your food in way too much spice was considered a status symbol since they were rare and expensive), but why learn history when you can just brainstorm whatever bullshit you want?
On one hand, as I wrote in The Graysonian Ethic, everyone has urges that are bad, but the key is to recognise that those urges are bad and that while they are of course a part of you, you don't start identifying yourself by them and making them the core part of your identity and start going around forming communities full of people whose commonality is that they have bad urges. I see a beautiful woman walking down the street, not only do I not immediately walk up and molest them, but I don't hit on them either since I'm happily married, and I don't go online and join the molester community or the cheating on my wife community "but don't worry I won't do it I swear" because I'm not a psychopath.
On the other hand, lots of people who are called incels are clearly not incels. Nick Rekieta of Rekieta Law has 6 kids and a gorgeous wife -- he isn't celibate, involuntary or otherwise. He's called that because he fought for a guy he thought was metoo'd falsely and he didn't bend the knee to the woke lynch mob. Same with lots of labels -- People have views that aren't racist but they are called racist because someone goes "What they're really saying is" with no evidence. Remember the recent kerfuffle where people claimed not using spices is racist? Anyone with a cursory knowledge of history would know how absurd that idea is (for much of western history, slathering your food in way too much spice was considered a status symbol since they were rare and expensive), but why learn history when you can just brainstorm whatever bullshit you want?
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