I like to think that I want to see opinions I disagree with, and I'm mutuals with people who I think prove that out. People I respect but nonetheless disagree with strongly on important things.
Thing is, opinions I disagree with need to have some grounding in reality, or it's just slamming my head against a brick wall! I'm not a teenager anymore, I don't want to just argue with people who are wrong on the Internet.
At least *try* to change my mind rather than just assuming you've already captured it and saying stuff that's divorced from reality, logic, and common sense, you know?
Thing is, opinions I disagree with need to have some grounding in reality, or it's just slamming my head against a brick wall! I'm not a teenager anymore, I don't want to just argue with people who are wrong on the Internet.
At least *try* to change my mind rather than just assuming you've already captured it and saying stuff that's divorced from reality, logic, and common sense, you know?
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Yeah, that's a good example. "Oh, so you don't presuppose that you're alive, that you're on earth, that your perceptions of reality through your eyes and ears are accurate enough that you can make judgements based on those? That your mind is clear enough that you can use it to make judgements?"
Doesn't seem like a lot, but just the above isn't stuff you can just take for granted necessarily. If any of those presuppositions are wrong then you can't move forward with any conclusions!
Yeah, that's a good example. "Oh, so you don't presuppose that you're alive, that you're on earth, that your perceptions of reality through your eyes and ears are accurate enough that you can make judgements based on those? That your mind is clear enough that you can use it to make judgements?"
Doesn't seem like a lot, but just the above isn't stuff you can just take for granted necessarily. If any of those presuppositions are wrong then you can't move forward with any conclusions!
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That's a good point. As an example, the western worldview is that the world is ultimately a knowable, understandable, quantifiable thing. Under many worldviews, the world is something transient that can change at any moment into a fundamentally different thing on the whims of an alien, unknowable metaphysic, so it's a waste of time understanding the world.
As an example, the Arab muslims were some of the peak scientists of the short era they agreed with Christians that the world was the work of God and you could learn more about God by learning more about the world, but their fundamental ideology changed after a while to believe the world is made by God and can be changed at any time by God so learning about it is a waste.
As an example, the Arab muslims were some of the peak scientists of the short era they agreed with Christians that the world was the work of God and you could learn more about God by learning more about the world, but their fundamental ideology changed after a while to believe the world is made by God and can be changed at any time by God so learning about it is a waste.