"We should get rid of LOTR because a few Nazis on twitter made Aragon shitpost edits and because it's not morally grey enough for the media literacy people to whinge about fans 'just not getting it' on Twitter" This is what shitlibs actually believe, these people have a brain parasite.
@Shadowman311 I listened to all that crap and he didn't even directly quote Tolkien.
@Shadowman311 I thoroughly dislike this faggot that is talking shit.
@judgedread @Shadowman311 I had to stop it early. I completely reject that Dune presents anything like moral ambiguity.
Should also be noted that this dude just overtly misquoted and misinterpreted Tolkien, Tolkien disliked Dune because it was an allegory and he hated allegories, Dune also isn't morally ambiguous, there are clear good and evil factions, the lines are just blurred due to politics and the short comings of prominent characters. Media literacy people don't even read the books or understand the authors that they lecture other people about
@Shadowman311 they want everything to be morally grey so they can make it into whatever they want at the moment to bludgeon you with. give me something where the good guys are good and the bad guys are bad, that’s why I’ve grown to like lord of the rings so much the past few years. it’s just good guys beating bad guys unambiguously for once
@Turdicus quite a few of the so called "morally grey" stories they love so much aren't even that grey, they are just stories about people with good intentions having to do evil things in the short term for a long term good, that's not morally ambiguous that's the ends justifying the means.
@Shadowman311 Wasn't Tolkien also an optimist? Maybe that's another reason why.
@Shadowman311 >noooo the villain is a commentary on authoritarianism you aren't supposed to like them!!!
@Turdicus If Frank Herbert had actually lived long enough to finish the Dune series and expand upon the mysterious threat to humanity that the series was building towards then I suspect that these people wouldn't be able to paint Dune as a "morally ambiguous" story like they do now.
@Shadowman311 >guy who fought against nazis questions concept of morality
Hmmm makes you think. For people painted as history's unambiguous bad guys you would think those fighting them would walk away with more clear-cut morals, not less.
Hmmm makes you think. For people painted as history's unambiguous bad guys you would think those fighting them would walk away with more clear-cut morals, not less.
@Shadowman311 Complex political realities can exist while Good V Evil still plays out.
It's just that people don't feel good about picking a side they are on board with 90% of the things they do but don't like 10%. Aka, they think the factions should be 100% friend v 100% enemy, so in the end they don't actually want complex political realities.
It's just that people don't feel good about picking a side they are on board with 90% of the things they do but don't like 10%. Aka, they think the factions should be 100% friend v 100% enemy, so in the end they don't actually want complex political realities.
@Shadowman311 It's OK for me to say I'd like to punch that guy in the face right?
@ACL9000 @judgedread @Shadowman311 Dune is literally a story of a dude sacrificing his own humanity to abenge his family name. I guess thats morally gray.
Maybe he was talking about the movies?
Maybe he was talking about the movies?
@epictittus @ACL9000 @judgedread The movies aren't morally grey either and stick very closely to that same dynamic of sacrifice and vengeance
@Shadowman311 @ACL9000 @judgedread I only saw the original movie. Is the new any good?
@epictittus @ACL9000 @judgedread depends on who you ask, I thought it was fine but a lot of people on here have very strong opinions to the contrary.
@ophanimalistic @Shadowman311 ok but Eren did nothing wrong
@Victor_Emmanuel @ophanimalistic @Shadowman311 He didn't finish the job that's the problem
I mean is it any surprise? They took nigger out of huckleberry finn and made it "friend jim" or some shit. Because god forbid you accurately portray how things were. People are faggots.
@Shadowman311 you don't even need morality to pick the right side these days, physiognomy is enough.
@Shadowman311 >Posts a Jewish artist and faggot (Pollock) in support of bashing traditional art to own it to the Nazi chuds
@Shadowman311 But they do believe in a black and white morality. Where they are the good guys fighting for tolerance and love. While those who oppose them are evil extremists
Removed the word nigger so hes not nigger jim anymore I can't remember if they gave him another qualifier or if it just Jim now but either way nigger is out
@SuperSnekFriend @Shadowman311 Don't forget fed-backed
@Shadowman311 > DUNE can't be used as a straightforward rallying cry
t. guy about to be left in a ditch by Butlerian Jihadists
t. guy about to be left in a ditch by Butlerian Jihadists
I'm going to shove that USB cable up this faggot nerd's nose for real. Like an NG tube.
@Shadowman311 >Which myth serves us better?
Does he mean "us", or (((us)))? Because a message about goodness, heroism and the need to defend the White West serves people who aren't rootless cosmopolitans really well.
Does he mean "us", or (((us)))? Because a message about goodness, heroism and the need to defend the White West serves people who aren't rootless cosmopolitans really well.
I would also like to point out that The entire point of Dune was a man saving humanity from excess and forever wars by scattering civilization to the four winds of the cosmos because the melting pot of the human empire had grown too big and corrupt. This fucking faggot never read the books.
@SuperSnekFriend @Shadowman311 this is what they value and believe. Even his phrasing, “which myth serves us better” is draped in neoliberal mindrot. the very video is propaganda, not even quoting Tolkein despite slandering him.
@ophanimalistic @Shadowman311 gotta add in Egil, Jin, and N from Xenoblade chronicles.
@RehnSturm256 @Shadowman311 @SuperSnekFriend Apparently the ONLY thing that matters is preventing another Hitler from emerging, never mind that communists have objectively caused far more harm than the Nazis.
Of course, people like that fag are precisely why I now support the Nazis.
Of course, people like that fag are precisely why I now support the Nazis.
@Shadowman311
White people aren't allowed to have countries anymore
White people aren't allowed to have White children anymore
White people aren't allowed to have free speech anymore
White people aren't allowed to have tales of heroism anymore
White people aren't even allowed to have BEAUTY anymore
All because Jews, for once, got taste of Karma between 1933 and 1945.
RE: https://poa.st/objects/5f354492-d410-444e-b836-129560b468e4
White people aren't allowed to have countries anymore
White people aren't allowed to have White children anymore
White people aren't allowed to have free speech anymore
White people aren't allowed to have tales of heroism anymore
White people aren't even allowed to have BEAUTY anymore
All because Jews, for once, got taste of Karma between 1933 and 1945.
RE: https://poa.st/objects/5f354492-d410-444e-b836-129560b468e4
@ChristiJunior
I prefer Hitler over most of what modern politics has to offer
@Shadowman311 @SuperSnekFriend @RehnSturm256
I prefer Hitler over most of what modern politics has to offer
@Shadowman311 @SuperSnekFriend @RehnSturm256
@ChristiJunior @Shadowman311 >modern art is garbage to own the nadsis
i belebe it
i belebe it
@MeBigbrain @Shadowman311 Bear in mind tolkien and his friend roy cambell were franco supporters and urged CS lewis to nut up and support them too
@ChristiJunior @Shadowman311 >for once
they always get it. Kicked out everywhere.
they always get it. Kicked out everywhere.
@WandererUber @ChristiJunior @Shadowman311 They'll get it again.
@ophanimalistic @Shadowman311 there are so many of these villains, about as common as "he's not evil just misunderstood" villains
we need "he's not evil he's just retarded" villains
@ChristiJunior @RehnSturm256 @Shadowman311 @SuperSnekFriend People do not hate fascism because it is evil (which means jack shit coming from godless moral relativists) but because it is society's immune response to the disease killing it
@Twoinchdestroya @Shadowman311 pessimist fiction is very gay. Tolkien is based in at least that regard (not for being a philosemite weirdo though)
@Shadowman311 @Turdicus Anything that isn't a Saturday morning cartoon with its childish morality is is morally grey to them.
@ChristiJunior @Shadowman311 next time its going to be a world wide pogrom and its going to be fucking beautiful
@Shadowman311 that mic is hideous and looks like a retard snorkel
@Griffith @Shadowman311 it's not even a mic!
@YTFoidLover1488 @Shadowman311 It looks like a phone charging cable taped to his face.
@Griffith @Shadowman311 This person is actually mentally ill and speaking with authority.
@Shadowman311 Why the fuck does he have a lightning cable taped to the side of his face which he pretends is a headset mic
@VidMasterEon @ChristiJunior @Shadowman311 @SuperSnekFriend @RehnSturm256
The problem with fascism is usually that the man taking absolute power is unfit to wield it. Hitler and Mussolini got too full of themselves, while Franco was an actual military man and governed pretty well.
The problem with fascism is usually that the man taking absolute power is unfit to wield it. Hitler and Mussolini got too full of themselves, while Franco was an actual military man and governed pretty well.
@ChristiJunior @Shadowman311 The part that really bugs me is that we, according to their propaganda now, send hundreds of thousands of good white boys from kansas, wyoming, texas, and virgina to their deaths just to save those jews from the concentration camps.
So many dead, billions of gallons of our grandfathers, uncles, and cousins' blood spilled TO SAVE THESE UNGRATEFUL JEWS, and they treat us like WE were the ones running the camps.
@SuperSnekFriend @Shadowman311 Pollock was a mediocre hack that couldn't even draw a stick figure properly, at least Hitler had talent as a painter and was a master craftsman at a very difficult medium like watercolors.
@Shadowman311 How could even be "morally grey" a medieval fantasy setting rooted on Christian values, morals and mythology ?
> "Which serves us better...?"
> "I'm Stevie McPhaggot, signing off."
> "I'm Stevie McPhaggot, signing off."
@WashedOutGundamPilot @ChristiJunior @Shadowman311 Not only don't we get a single statue in gratitude at any of the "never again" Holocaust museums in OUR country, they tear down all existing statues of our past heroes.
Oh how they deserve it.
Oh how they deserve it.
I mean... The guy who was like "Let's kill half the life in the universe, that's a long-term solution to the problem of too much life in the universe" kinda fits.
I've got a wonderful leather bound anthology of several of Twain's works. And the N-Word inhibitors have been fully released.
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I think you misunderstand. The inhibitors were released. Every one was on full display, just as Mark Twain wrote it back in the 19th century.
@ChristiJunior @RehnSturm256 @Shadowman311 @SuperSnekFriend
Nazis vs Communist
12 years rule ( 1933-1945 ) vs 74 years rule ( 1918-1992 )
"6 million jews" vs more than close to 10 million people
20 countries invaded by the nazis vs 21 countries invaded or becoming satellite countries of the USSR
Yeah, I'd say the Soviets were far worse than the Nazis
Nazis vs Communist
12 years rule ( 1933-1945 ) vs 74 years rule ( 1918-1992 )
"6 million jews" vs more than close to 10 million people
20 countries invaded by the nazis vs 21 countries invaded or becoming satellite countries of the USSR
Yeah, I'd say the Soviets were far worse than the Nazis
@sj_zero @Shadowman311 @ophanimalistic @mischievoustomato just make more universe
@sj_zero @Shadowman311 @ophanimalistic @mischievoustomato he just wanted to kill people and had a God complex about it. kinda like Jigsaw obviously just wanted to torture people to death and just needed a good moral excuse to do it
Now I want to rewrite the entire Lord of the Rings as a White Pride/White Power anthem, where they eradicate not only all the filth races, but enslave the Hobbits, elves, and dwarves, and live happily ever after.
@BattleDwarfGimli @Shadowman311 I think there should be a White pride version of Undercover Brother
@Victor_Emmanuel @Shadowman311 not really, not until the ending
the story should've had an extra season or two. it left so much room for worldbuilding which it excelled at the most.
the story should've had an extra season or two. it left so much room for worldbuilding which it excelled at the most.
@Shadowman311
Maybe I'm not remembering it well ... But wasn't the big threat a bunch of prescient hunter seekers killing all the humanity?
@Turdicus
Maybe I'm not remembering it well ... But wasn't the big threat a bunch of prescient hunter seekers killing all the humanity?
@Turdicus
@Laurel @Shadowman311 @Turdicus Nobody kows this outside of my own headcanon I made up just now but the bigger enemy that was being hinted at was the Covenant. Dune is the prequel to Halo.
@Shadowman311 @Turdicus "Gray is the color of cowardice and ignorance and sheer laziness, Davian--never let anyone tell you otherwise. If something is not clearly right or wrong then it bears actually *figuring out* which one it is, not dismissal into some nebulous third category. If you have a basis for your morality, a foundation for it, then there will always be an answer--and if you do not, then trying to decide whether *anything* is right or wrong is an exercise in futility and irrelevance.”
-The Licanius Trilogy
-The Licanius Trilogy
@WashedOutGundamPilot
I don’t think we picked the right side in that war. We should have sided with the Axis.
@ChristiJunior @Shadowman311
I don’t think we picked the right side in that war. We should have sided with the Axis.
@ChristiJunior @Shadowman311
@Shadowman311 @ThisFuckinGuy they made Huck black and his companion is Wigger Jim.
@AndkonsReich @Shadowman311 i think he's referencing the stillsuit bretahing tube, maybe? or he just gay and tarded
@Kang_Kong3 @AndkonsReich @Shadowman311 Both can be true.
@epictittus The new movies are extremely weak. It's amazing how much better they make the Lynch film look in comparison - and I have always been a fan of the Lynch version.
@judgedread @epictittus huge dune fan, and I skipped the new ones. just had a vibe I didn't need it.
@Victor_Emmanuel @ophanimalistic @Shadowman311 From what I hear the author got told to cool it with the nationalist tendencies and he went nuclear and had Eren turn into a fucking pathetic whining slob, the complete opposite of what his character has been the entire fucking story
I love Tolkien... he was so unapologetically.... normal.
@mischievoustomato @Shadowman311 @ophanimalistic need evil women marriage correction stories
@branman65 @mischievoustomato @Shadowman311 @ophanimalistic Read Hans Christian Andersen's The Traveling Companion
It's one of the epitomic correcting evil woman with good and happy life stories.
hca.gilead.org.il/travelng.html
It's one of the epitomic correcting evil woman with good and happy life stories.
hca.gilead.org.il/travelng.html
@SuperSnekFriend @mischievoustomato @Shadowman311 @ophanimalistic that was a wonderful story
@Shadowman311 I never liked Dune, don't like deserts, didn't like the tech or the premise. I watched the remake of Dune (not Dune 2) and found it dry and dull at best. Lord of the Rings is king and as a racist I know the dwarves were the jews and the orcs are the blacks and the haradrim the Middle East. Tolkien understood the world very well.
@VikingWays @Shadowman311 I never understood the dwarves being jews idea.
the only similarity they have is that they covet gold and are insular. other than that they are completely different. Dwarves are expert craftsman and love work and would rather dig their way into the solid rock of a mountain than parasite off the people around them.
the only similarity they have is that they covet gold and are insular. other than that they are completely different. Dwarves are expert craftsman and love work and would rather dig their way into the solid rock of a mountain than parasite off the people around them.
@branman65 @sj_zero @Shadowman311 @ophanimalistic @mischievoustomato the most reasonable long term solution would be to institute a set population limit and just use the gauntlet power to make it so eggs dont fertilize if the limit is exceeded
Would this have some sort of weird unintended effect where people would make raids on other species and have giant orgies right after the battle to try and fill up their population?
@Dudebro @Shadowman311 @branman65 @ophanimalistic @mischievoustomato @sj_zero no good solution is possible for the Malthusian trap. you just have bad and worse
pretty much the best scenario would be to just keep expanding the universe indefinitely. But there’s some sort of weird funky entropy shit probably
@Dudebro @Shadowman311 @branman65 @ophanimalistic @mischievoustomato @sj_zero The problem is. that while their will always be a frontier. the people at the center of the universe will eventually become so far away from the frontier that it will become easier to war with each other than to travel to the frontier
War is part of nature you can’t fight it. There are millions to billions of ants in a 3 way hyper colony war happening every minute.
@Groomschild @Dudebro @Shadowman311 @ophanimalistic @mischievoustomato @sj_zero just create magical super travel or something it's marvel