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https://www.ukpirate.party/

I want to like this party, but it's been partially compromised by non-pirate politics, such as "trans rights", and it says that the civil liberties it believes in must be "exercised responsibly", whatever that means.

Maybe I should become a member and try to change it from the inside.

@Hyolobrika They lost themselves long before they landed upon our shores. I'm a member of another party already but even then I've been questioning their actions lately.

Which other party is that?

@Hyolobrika Reform. They've so far been a safety net for ex-Tories and allow the likes of Nick Loles to vet their candidates. They feel like a containment party to me right now, alongside Tice squirming over what 'British values' are below the surface.

It's a shame first past the post makes it hard for small parties to get any influence.

Ideally, we'd vote on policies rather than parties. But that might not be practical at the moment.

@Hyolobrika I feel people want a change of government but not necessarily a change of party.

@Hyolobrika Holy shit! Its a offshoot of the party that had this guy who killed one of the election volunteers for rejecting him, putting his body into a sack barrow, hauling it through half Berlin to his apartment where he raped it and then went to Gensokyo.

Are you gonna give us a source for that? 😂

Also, it's an offshoot of an offshoot. The same people are unlikely to be involved.

Ty

Whatever other policies the government has, it should respect free speech and an open internet.

@Hyolobrika > the civil liberties it believes in must be "exercised responsibly"

pirates are famous for behaving in accordance with norms and the law.

I mean, to be fair, "pirate" was an insult from media company associations, not a self-description.

@Hyolobrika
>it says that the civil liberties it believes in must be "exercised responsibly", whatever that means.

It means "I believe in free speech, but..."

@Hyolobrika there is a whole "pirate philosophy" behind the pirate parties

@sun @Hyolobrika @thatbrickster
>Freedom of expression etc...
ok
>lgbtqia+
And you know they're already lost.

>Net Neutrality: We support a free and open internet where all data is treated equally, without discrimination by ISPs.
>Open Source Software: We advocate for the use of open source software to promote transparency and user control.
>Join us on discord

@sun

Indeed. Pirates are also champions of consent

@Hyolobrika

@Hyolobrika they will sooner abandon their digital freedoms than drop trans rights

I am not familiar with it, but I'm guessing it's about digital piracy (obviously) and freedom and supports breaking any laws that don't allow that?
Maybe, but you'd expect them to at least in appearance be pro-law when they make a political party.
Although, I wonder if there's anything actually stopping them from coming out and saying "you can break the law if the law is unjust"?

I fucking hope not.
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@Hyolobrika there is a term for it, it's called "Kopimi"

I've heard of it

@histoire @thatbrickster @Hyolobrika
Yeah they're totally a containment party right now but probably a small needed step towards a real right wing party. It'd take a lot for UKIP or Britain First to get more seats, reform is more palatable and would be yet another affirmation that the public dont want left wing bollocks or neo-con shit

Please untag me from this section of the thread.

@Hyolobrika @histoire @thatbrickster
I think this was the end of the thread friendo

@Hyolobrika >I mean, to be fair, "pirate" was an insult from media company associations, not a self-description.
A pirate is someone who commits theft, kidnap and murder etc with the assistance of a boat.

A some point, authors re-used the term to refer to publishers who made unauthorized publications of their books overseas (with the assistance of a boat), made a large profit and proceeded to pay such authors nothing.

Publishers then turned it around and removed any semblance of meaning by using it to refer to cases of unauthorized copying, where people individually share information to their neighbors (just to be nice), without any boat assistance, even when the form of sharing is legally not prohibited.

@sun >there is a term for it, it's called "Kopimi"
"Kopimi" is a big fail as the works are still restricted by copyright and is therefore proprietary.

If a "Kopimi" mark is on a work, all that means is that the author intends to informally allow non-commercial distribution and nothing else.