I'm really disappointed seeing a lot of people that I generally like on the left cheering for what is obviously a politically motivated case and conviction.
I just have to flip the question: if Donald Trump did to Democrat politicians what is happening to Donald Trump, would it or would it not be considered an attack on democracy?
The reason that Justice must be blind is that it shouldn't matter whether you like the person or not with respect to their treatment by the justice system. If everyone is suddenly going after one person solely because they don't like that person politically, whether you like it or not that is an actual threat to democracy.
The first assassination in Rome was of a populist politician, and after that assassination became a common tool. Eventually, Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon ending the age of the Roman Republic and beginning the age of the Roman empire, and the Rubicon would be crossed over and over again for centuries.
A few senators got together and thought that if only they could kill the one man, this Julius Caesar, then the Republic would be saved. After the assassination, another Caesar took his place, and another and another because the fundamental problems didn't really have anything to do with the one man, and instead pointed to a rot in Roman civilization.
Eventually, things would get so bad that the entire empire would collapse and everyone would be very happy that it finally collapsed because the lot of the common Man would be better then it had ever been.
Think about it for a minute, all of the democratic norms that were broken long before Donald Trump even entered politics. Both political parties voted for the USAPatriot act. Both political parties continued to vote to extend it. Both political parties kept Guantanamo Bay open. Both political parties voted to keep fisa courts running. Both political parties had a president in power who could have pardoned Edward Snowden, the hero whistleblower who spoke up when he saw widespread attacks on individual American civil liberties, yet definitively chose not to.
America has some big problems right now, and perhaps Donald Trump is even emblematic of those problems. But you can send many senators up to stab him in the back and all that's going to happen is another one's going to rise because the problems aren't him, they are America in decline.
Just like Julius Caesar, if you take out Donald Trump you aren't actually going to save the Republic because the problem with the Roman Republic was not Julius caesar, and the problem with the American Republic is not Donald Trump.
I just have to flip the question: if Donald Trump did to Democrat politicians what is happening to Donald Trump, would it or would it not be considered an attack on democracy?
The reason that Justice must be blind is that it shouldn't matter whether you like the person or not with respect to their treatment by the justice system. If everyone is suddenly going after one person solely because they don't like that person politically, whether you like it or not that is an actual threat to democracy.
The first assassination in Rome was of a populist politician, and after that assassination became a common tool. Eventually, Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon ending the age of the Roman Republic and beginning the age of the Roman empire, and the Rubicon would be crossed over and over again for centuries.
A few senators got together and thought that if only they could kill the one man, this Julius Caesar, then the Republic would be saved. After the assassination, another Caesar took his place, and another and another because the fundamental problems didn't really have anything to do with the one man, and instead pointed to a rot in Roman civilization.
Eventually, things would get so bad that the entire empire would collapse and everyone would be very happy that it finally collapsed because the lot of the common Man would be better then it had ever been.
Think about it for a minute, all of the democratic norms that were broken long before Donald Trump even entered politics. Both political parties voted for the USAPatriot act. Both political parties continued to vote to extend it. Both political parties kept Guantanamo Bay open. Both political parties voted to keep fisa courts running. Both political parties had a president in power who could have pardoned Edward Snowden, the hero whistleblower who spoke up when he saw widespread attacks on individual American civil liberties, yet definitively chose not to.
America has some big problems right now, and perhaps Donald Trump is even emblematic of those problems. But you can send many senators up to stab him in the back and all that's going to happen is another one's going to rise because the problems aren't him, they are America in decline.
Just like Julius Caesar, if you take out Donald Trump you aren't actually going to save the Republic because the problem with the Roman Republic was not Julius caesar, and the problem with the American Republic is not Donald Trump.
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Prions aren't capabe of higher reason and all leftists are prions as well as most cuckservatives
@sj_zero About time someone said it here. The American political system is on its last legs, and a dictator in the next 10-20 years is very likely. It might be a right-wing or a communist dictator.
Republicans kicked off the "impeach every president" thing with Clinton. Before that you did not impeach unless you thought you could convict.
Democrats have now moved us to the age of prosecute every president.
Someone is eventually going to attempt an actual coup.
@sj_zero Donald Trump is fucking detrimental piece of shit that lead to the left amassing power.
He exists as a genuinely toxic populist pseudo right figure that lead to the centre right becoming terminally leftized.
He exists as a genuinely toxic populist pseudo right figure that lead to the centre right becoming terminally leftized.