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"Stocks around the world are plunging ... shockwaves through global markets" writes CNN.

"Stock markets are reeling but economists say: Don’t panic yet" writes the Washington Post.

"Wall Street suffers worst day in nearly two years after global sell-off" writes The Guardian.

👉 Have a look at the Dow of the last 30 years. Do we really think this is sustainable on a limited planet? Good lives do not blindly depend on ever more. Sufficiency is very satisfying - both in the more & in the less.

A curve with a strong, steady rise over the past 30 years, with some limited fluctuations. Neither the global financial crisis nor the pandemic are overly prominent, they simply delay the growth by a few years. The current decline is barely visible.

@W_Lucht - since money is just an abstraction, it's possible for the Dow to keep going up. It's not possible for carbon emissions to keep going up.

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But an abstraction tied to the material world. The claim that economic growth can be mostly dematerialised is part of a myth - open dynamic systems that perform work, like our societies, require an energetic and material gradient through their components to operate and scaling laws apply even when these systems are optimised.

@W_Lucht - the Dow is very loosely tied to the material world. Sure, we'll probably ruin the Earth and our civilization will crash. But I'm just saying: it's not the graph of the Dow that we should be looking at, it's the graph of all the physical flows we're relying on.

You can have "unlimited growth" easily by just lying about inflation. Then they just make it so everything costs more except your wages and so record profits for everyone (and record tax revenue since look at all these profits we can tax!)
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