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@ScoWer22

Unknown source has been fact checked. All good.

@guy Please consider that Soooooo much of the covid era has been memory-holed google AI scrubbed from the web as if it never was ever published.

Only archives preserved by those appalled at the time the lengths they went to "prove" what they once spouted as gospel. Or edict and threat.

I don't have the energy for such arguments. Waste of time.

I trust my memory. They were awful, and i'm not forgetting it.

@ScoWer22 @guy

I remember all of this too, but I'd love a link to this over a screenshot

@SirRich @ScoWer22 @guy

Paper the article was based on:

https://archive.md/DJi6a

Something a lot of people don't realize is that every medical intervention has a risk associated with it. A lot of the time even though you feel like shit the right thing to do is to drink plenty of liquids and lay in bed for a few days.
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@TylerAbeoJordan @SirRich @ScoWer22

I'm apprehensive of machine learning vs manual review. They only reviewed roughly 550 cases. I expect we will have issues by going onto autopilot on this front.

They don't clearly bridge the gap of causation that I see, below:

CONCLUSIONS. Unsuccessful treatment of VAP is associated with greater mortality. The relatively long length of stay among patients with COVID-19 is primarily due to prolonged respiratory failure, placing them at higher risk of VAP.

@guy @SirRich @ScoWer22

Yes. Given how many died though, it's 'strange' that there is no follow up on this study or other studies that have looked at this closely. Seems like maybe it would be important. But what do I know, right! ;-)

@TylerAbeoJordan @SirRich @ScoWer22

I completely agree with you and believe what nurses were reporting that vents were destroying lungs, I just don't think this conclusion was really proving that.

The whole COVID enterprise was horrible and I believe real ethical intellectuals will ultimately outline how it was done.

There are kids who lost their junior and senior year of high school who are about to become PhD candidates in statistics and other fields. They're going to figure this out.

@guy @SirRich @ScoWer22

Maybe ... However kids with large university debts tend to think of their career first and challenging authority last. There is also the matter of funding for such studies and you can bet that the government agencies aren't going to give a high priority here.

Likely this is why this study has so little data and used AI - they scraped some records on hand for data and did it with very little manual labor.