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Post #986
Deep Dive
Sep 06, 2024
The Economist estimated the 7-day average daily excess death per 100,000 weekly for almost all territories. This is the first of four planned reports on places that got such high weekly averages of daily excess deaths that they defy belief. At its worst, COVID was never more than twice as bad as flu, so when very high death occurs, you wonder.
Back in June of 1957, Asian Flu first hit Rhode Island, USA. By March of 1958, two waves and nine months later, there were an estimated 69,800 dead. Because the U.S. population was 172.74 million at the time, then — for those 9 months — the average daily excess death per 100,000 was 0.148.
Back in 1918, Spanish Flu broke out. The results in India were so bad that they were unlike anywhere else in the world. When the world rate of excess death during the year of 1918 is used — but excluding India — you get 1.334 average daily excess deaths per 100,000.
Way, way back in 1779, smallpox hit Boston, Massachusetts — resulting in an average daily excess death rate of 2.74 per 100,000.
For 4.5 years from mid-1914 to near the end of 1918, the world was at war (WWI). The losing side of the war — the so-called Central Powers — had a total population of 143.1 million but lost over 7 million lives in those 4.5 years. That’s more than 4 times the rate that the winning side lost.
When worked out to an average daily death per 100,000, the Central Powers together experienced an average daily excess death per 100,000 of 3.043. With these 4 historic examples of high excess death, we now turn to COVID in Romania:
Post #986
Deep Dive
Sep 06, 2024
The Economist estimated the 7-day average daily excess death per 100,000 weekly for almost all territories. This is the first of four planned reports on places that got such high weekly averages of daily excess deaths that they defy belief. At its worst, COVID was never more than twice as bad as flu, so when very high death occurs, you wonder.
Back in June of 1957, Asian Flu first hit Rhode Island, USA. By March of 1958, two waves and nine months later, there were an estimated 69,800 dead. Because the U.S. population was 172.74 million at the time, then — for those 9 months — the average daily excess death per 100,000 was 0.148.
Back in 1918, Spanish Flu broke out. The results in India were so bad that they were unlike anywhere else in the world. When the world rate of excess death during the year of 1918 is used — but excluding India — you get 1.334 average daily excess deaths per 100,000.
Way, way back in 1779, smallpox hit Boston, Massachusetts — resulting in an average daily excess death rate of 2.74 per 100,000.
For 4.5 years from mid-1914 to near the end of 1918, the world was at war (WWI). The losing side of the war — the so-called Central Powers — had a total population of 143.1 million but lost over 7 million lives in those 4.5 years. That’s more than 4 times the rate that the winning side lost.
When worked out to an average daily death per 100,000, the Central Powers together experienced an average daily excess death per 100,000 of 3.043. With these 4 historic examples of high excess death, we now turn to COVID in Romania:
I really pissed off a "covid is the worst thing to happen to the human race ever" guy by pointing out the difference between covid, the spanish flu, tuberculosis, and smallpox. In my own country, the number of deaths was way higher under the others, and that's not even correcting for per capita -- there was 1/8th the population and double the deaths over comparable periods of time during those pandemics.
Tuberculosis in particular is a disease with undeniable long-term effects, and unlike something like covid (or even its vaccine -- which might have pissed him off even more since that part of the analysis totally breaks the "you're on the other side" narrative), it was overwhelming. Of the people who got tb, half of them had measurable damage to their lungs that would have to be managed for the rest of their lives. Neither COVID nor COVID vaccines have that level of immediate damage to that overwhelming percentage of the people who get it.
The same guy found a study showing that the covid virus found a way to suppress the immune system and so was continually making the claim that covid gives you AIDS, but if the implication of anyone who got covid gets AIDS (which implies a condition commensurate with getting HIV/AIDS) much of the world (because in spite of vaccines many many people got COVID) would have died of rare viruses and bacteria. Instead, several years after the fact things are really back to normal other than the societal scars left behind by the political tools used during the pandemic. It's similar to all the studies that kill cancer cells in a petri dish and people claim there's all these cures for cancer, but it's easy to kill cancer cells on their own, it's much harder to kill cancer cells and not destroy the rest of the human body.
Tuberculosis in particular is a disease with undeniable long-term effects, and unlike something like covid (or even its vaccine -- which might have pissed him off even more since that part of the analysis totally breaks the "you're on the other side" narrative), it was overwhelming. Of the people who got tb, half of them had measurable damage to their lungs that would have to be managed for the rest of their lives. Neither COVID nor COVID vaccines have that level of immediate damage to that overwhelming percentage of the people who get it.
The same guy found a study showing that the covid virus found a way to suppress the immune system and so was continually making the claim that covid gives you AIDS, but if the implication of anyone who got covid gets AIDS (which implies a condition commensurate with getting HIV/AIDS) much of the world (because in spite of vaccines many many people got COVID) would have died of rare viruses and bacteria. Instead, several years after the fact things are really back to normal other than the societal scars left behind by the political tools used during the pandemic. It's similar to all the studies that kill cancer cells in a petri dish and people claim there's all these cures for cancer, but it's easy to kill cancer cells on their own, it's much harder to kill cancer cells and not destroy the rest of the human body.
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