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@lain We were talking about rights some time ago. You said you didn't believe in them. But what about property rights? As an ancap, surely you must believe in those? What about the NAP? Isn't that a kind of right or obligation?

To me, rights are just another framing of ethics. "Everyone has a right to life" means "don't kill".
I'm not sure why it's thought of differently.

@Hyolobrika @lain But what alternative framing for property rights?
A right to be left alone, not have stuff you use taken from you? Or a right to posess an unlimited amount of stuff?

@romin @lain @Hyolobrika justice is an abstract virtue (hopefully) embodied in government but not inseperable from it. That's why it's possible for a "hero vigilante operating outside the law" to still be understood as a hero in story and why we can understand the application of some laws to be unjust even if "lawful"

That's basically how I think of it. The role of the legal and justice system is to embody justice, but that doesn't mean they actually do.
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