apparently you can "come out as trans" to your companions in the upcoming dragon age. sounds like a ton of fun
@anemone based on the demographic I've seen still care about these games 10 years later it seems that they just know their audience
@anemone i havent seen anyone who's not an afab he/they (based) talk about these games since 2015
@vriska@lizards.live im skeptical those people actually buy videogames
why is there no extended discourse on accessibility and cripple rights?
Heal, 6th circle spell, my blobbo. Sticks brand new legs right on those stumps!
i am sad because man
just go down to the temple and borrow the greater emboobening scroll my blob, nobody cares
@icedquinn@blob.cat @vriska@lizards.live theres was discourse on D&D wheelchairs a few months ago which is also idiotic
@sun@shitposter.world instead im sure they will tell you how heckin valid you are
@teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @icedquinn@blob.cat @vriska@lizards.live yeah why tf would they be doing 21st century medical procedures in a world with magic (and no modern technology)
@sun@shitposter.world @icedquinn@blob.cat @vriska@lizards.live probably has magic to get around it but it still has to look identical to a modern real world wheelchair for some reason because these people have the creativity of a slab of concrete
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology gender complicated women aren't coopting this series they've been the main selling point since DA2
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology it is a little silly to not just use magic to do this kinda thing in settting but acting like the active dragon age fandom isn't a bunch of blue haired pronoun havers since 2012 is disengenious
But it isn't though, is it?
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the story to be told here is someone being extremely uncomfortable with their own body, being rejected socially for having completely wrong mannerisms, etc, hating life for being held to wrong expectations
this is something you can build a story around but you have to at least have the slightest bit of sense to do it in a setting where "cleric casts 6th level Heal, dysphoria cured" isn't LITERALLY CANON
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology under capitalism pandering to your main demographic is legally required
you'd turn the person in to a tree demon or something, so normies would experience the same things the people did and then you can rug pull later like "yeah that was actually a commentary on disabled war veterans though" and people go ah, shit, i've been had.
idk. i should shut up
@a7@annihilation.social @icedquinn@blob.cat @vriska@lizards.live @sun@shitposter.world it can hover, but only over stairs (im not joking)
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology Im talking specifically about dragon age, and yes, annoying gay people are the only ones who have cared about that series for over ten years
@a7@annihilation.social @icedquinn@blob.cat @vriska@lizards.live @sun@shitposter.world so is a "combat wheelchair" when you can just fix your legs with some magic
@vriska@lizards.live @sun@shitposter.world @icedquinn@blob.cat @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe i am kinda amazed bioware has fans at all these days
@anemone @icedquinn @teratology @sun right? So why wouldn't they pander to the one demographic who still cares? They are legally obligated to as well
but including it solely to immediately shit on it and shimmy it out of the way doesn't really do anything but trivialize the whole thing
@icedquinn @a7 @anemone @sun this is the proper way to hamdle it as a dm imo
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology two entirely different companies shipping two entirely different products. Do you get mad at pepsi for not tasting like sparkling water
@sun @anemone @teratology
@icedquinn@blob.cat @a7@annihilation.social @sun@shitposter.world @vriska@lizards.live that's not the purpose though, the reason it exists is so people who want to play an RPG without role playing can just copy paste themselves into the game
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology is almost like companies only exist to market themselves to groups most likely to have disposable income under whatever the current meta for that is. Corps believe in nothing but making money and for the least 7 years or so this is how its made. Gay people don't have children or homes to pay for after all
there's a couple games that kind of slow roll parts of the transformation but even then its fade to black and then all of the healing is already done etc
afaik the mid point is kind of a painful process nobody really wants to do.
its like if i was trying appeal to fashion enthusiasts by doing 3 hours of barber shop hair cutting footage and then going 'wow such hairstyle'
@icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology it is definetly integrated in the silliest and least narratively fulfillimg way possible but to pretend this is some woke company advancing an agenda and not "the only people who still talk about this game use neopronouns and we have to make the shareholders money" is equally silly
@anemone @sun @teratology
@icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology is not inorganic at all. Liberal women and gay men have the most disposable income and are most likely to buy things. Corps believe in whatever makes them money and up until a few years ago pandering to those two demos is a money printer
these old morons need you to SEE how much they are your FRIENDS so you won't guilotine them
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@sun@shitposter.world @vriska@lizards.live @icedquinn@blob.cat @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe is he a secret nazi cause this whole thing seems like a conspiracy to turn people against lgbts lol
i'm not talking about the indies like rose engine i'm talking about the big companies that are doing overt pandering to borderline or directly offensive behavior to make investors happy while completely fumbling the bag on the social issues they're supposedly being allies towards
@anemone @vriska @teratology
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology certain video games are the same way. It's a demographic shift that companies want to take advantage of. I loterally have not seen a single person on this network who wasnt transmasc even mention DA until this week. Bioware knows exactly who is going to buy this game
@sun@shitposter.world @icedquinn@blob.cat @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @vriska@lizards.live so yes? (if he's pro israel)
@icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology starfield didnt fail because of woke it failed because it sucked shit
baldurs gate 3 perhaps the most "woke" game in recent memory and it shattered sales records an expectations because it was good
@vriska@lizards.live @icedquinn@blob.cat @sun@shitposter.world @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe the thing i can't figure out is why 99% of the time "woke" pandering in modern media is so bafflingly lazy and out of touch. like aren't there a bunch of gays in the arts? why is it so fucking bad? It seems like sabotage
@anemone @icedquinn @teratology @sun all corporations run on focus groups, thats why
BG3 was way more "woke" and way more successful.
but the point is they put stuff in because they wanted to do that, not because the investment bankers said there must be a 'tranny scene' and other shit (yes they actually do this, there's post mortems from artists being told to ugly up characters to make finance happy)
@anemone @vriska @sun @teratology
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology it has only started to actually statisically harm bottom line in the last 18 months or so and this is something they're actively teaching to people getting masters degrees in marketing in [current year]
That's like saying you saw some Christian preachers shitting on the Harry Potter novels. It's a tiny amount of people.
even when they are doing outright existential affairs crimes (ryujin quest) the whole game has this like
complete nonchalance about it
@anemone @vriska @sun @teratology
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology also, if its being driven by investment, that just makes my point for me. company is only doing thing because someone is paying them.
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology brother here got a masters in marketing three years ago and talked constantly about how much they were taught marketing is "finding demo with most disposable income and extracting it from them" with gays and liberal single women being given as the two biggest examples lol
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology yup. gay males and single liberal women right now are the two biggest spenders and thats why modern marketing is the way it is
return to the days before political pandering videogame
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@ageha @icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology reminds me of "fallout 1 - no political themes
@anemone @arcana @vriska @teratology
@ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu @vriska@lizards.live @sun@shitposter.world @icedquinn@blob.cat @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe that was just pandering to a different demo
@anemone @icedquinn @teratology @ageha @sun and us homos loved it, why cant the straights just admit sometimes things arent for them?
@anemone @arcana @teratology @vriska
@vriska@lizards.live @icedquinn@blob.cat @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu @sun@shitposter.world getting flashbacks to bronies complaining that the tv show for little girls wasn't pandering to them enough
@anemone @icedquinn @teratology @ageha @sun yeah when people who will and have never played the infamously gay 15 year old video game is too gay for them I get the same vibes
t. the rage mob going after soulash 2
@anemone @teratology @ageha @sun
@icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology @ageha anyone on twitter regardless of belief should not be considered at all imo
like i'm fine with just returning to the 1990s meta of market segments.
@icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology @ageha yeah see I don't know or care about any of this because I go out of my way to ignore the very worst people from any given demo
no matter what group you will find the people who are the biggest and worst shitters from it on twitter
@icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology @ageha its time for all of us to stop caring collectively so rage/counter rage cant drive engagement then huh
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology @ageha did you ever actually REALLY ignore it
also "he who fights monsters
that's why i mentioned earlier that you just get "resident evil but girl kissing." but that doesn't give the image the insane rich men want to be seen with
@anemone @vriska @teratology @ageha
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology @ageha how exactly is making a game you havent played and never will play by your own admission more in line with what the people who will waste 140 dollars on the preorder want taking your lunch?
i am one of those people who has these conversations with people (unprompted seems my librarian status is somewhat metaphysical)
@anemone @vriska @sun @teratology @ageha
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology @ageha it would be unforgivably bad if more things you will never care about otherwise are made for the people who do care about them ,yeah
fink will eventually go broke if people stop hate watching his shit.
the market is already enacting corrections. concord was an absolute embarrassment. the tv series' are so atomized in to irrelevant subscription services as to not matter.
paradox has shit the bed and hooded horse has taken their place.
just buy the stuff that is good and damnatio memorae the garbage, nature heals.
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology @ageha you don't "have" to "retreat" in an argument about the gay RPG for homosexuals going woke even though its always been the gay rpg for homosexuals
frankly any non faggot who complains about DA specifically is doing exactly what they claim we do to their media
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology @ageha for every complaint about DA going "woke" I'm going to rewrite LOTR so its just gay sex scenes with Frodo and sam
@ageha @icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology not anymore, my hands are tied, moon did this
people would get really mad about it (as they should.)
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology @ageha buy video games you like is a good step
just let them cuddle and kiss man; it doesn't have to get lewd
@ageha @icedquinn @anemone @sun @teratology it does now, because of woke
@sun @icedquinn @anemone @teratology @ageha listen as far as gay shit goes shes the expert pffff
@sun@shitposter.world @vriska@lizards.live @icedquinn@blob.cat @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu you've always been powerless you just didn't notice as much when the majority of media was pandering to your demo. The rot goes back way further than the woke trend
@icedquinn @anemone @arcana @vriska @sun a good example of a shitshow of wokeism in games is TLoU2 and I still refuse to even acknowledge it as canon. The leaks were a shitshow and upsetting on multiple fronts. Neil Druckman can kick rocks and I think he hates women judging by how much graphic violence there is for the sake of it.
@anemone @icedquinn @vriska @sun gay characters in netflix shows come to mind, I'd rather be called a slur
@icedquinn @anemone @arcana @vriska @sun huh maybe, there was a lot of talk about transing the characters and other stuff but imo that was just the tip of the iceberg considering the contradictions in the plot and killing of the protag from game 1 in the worst way possible. The game should have been standalone like bloodbourne imo
like it's not just a revision of "instead of everyone is a disney hourglass, maybe we have some pears and boxes too" or "maybe not EVERYONE has DD's" but like
an actual push to make all of the women flat and mannish
@carthage@annihilation.social @J@cawfee.club @icedquinn@blob.cat @vriska@lizards.live @sun@shitposter.world @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu actually extraction based infinite growth economy is what's destroying society
@anemone @icedquinn @teratology @vriska @ageha @sun @J @carthage Humanity doing what it does best.
@sun @carthage @icedquinn @J @anemone @teratology @ageha we have been there since reagan second term tbh
@carthage @icedquinn @J @anemone @vriska @sun @teratology @ageha You are a perfect picture of what evolution does.
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