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I have been paying attention to a bunch of "anti-woke" people on YouTube. Every single one is a detestable person and a grifter. But it was useful to do this because they report on their ideological polar opposites, who are equally detestable and actually have power.

A fascinating aspect of this is that a lot of celebrities are weighing in on movie flops. They are convinced (well, I don't think they're smart enough to really think through their conclusions) that a small group of anti-woke cranks are making certain movies unpopular with general audiences, causing them to fail. This idea, if you follow the reasoning out loud, is pretty stupid and unbelievable. The movies were just bad and nobody wanted to see them.

I am not sure but I am starting to suspect that they are minor investors and are trying to find someone to blame and not their own judgment.

@sun why do you pay attention to these people at all? What difference do you hope this will make in your life?

@RustyCrab something is going on and I'm trying to understand it

@RustyCrab about 99% of them are still too intolerable to even watch

@sun @RustyCrab so you think we're finally reaching some kind of tipping point in political culture?

@sun

> ...was useful to do this because they report on their ideological polar opposites, who are equally detestable and actually have power.

Excellent strategy. But I find personally after doing that a while I get burnt out from ping pong between one group of insane retards and the other, and have to switch it up by watching tutorials on non-political topics like botany and so on. Otherwise I just find myself getting increasingly angry and feel as if my brain is slowly melting to mush in order to join the lowest common denominator.

@toiletpaper its not healthy

@toiletpaper my hobby is programming and it works good

@sun

That's one of my hobbies too, but even IT has it's dumb drama along similar lines that doesn't seem to be very easily avoided.

@sun A few come to mind. I have the same issue with some political commentators on either side of the divide. They think they're being insightful when they're saying the same few things in different ways.

@thatbrickster I have a ton more tolerance for right wing or reactionary stupidity than left wing. youtube is so bad. it ought to teach anyone that left wing people are just not smarter at all.

Even Disney is starting to fire communists now as investors are pulling out. It's communism. The next step is to just name it and stop using Woke. Now money is behind it we can get a new communist commission as they've gone too far.

@sun @genmaicha every time you say this you are merely citing one of the dips in this 400 hours in MS paint on android graph. It's been this way for my entire adult life. Nothing will get better until the entirety of the US collapses.

@sun I'm finding that last part to be true. The people I read from or listen to, who are most qualified (they're PhDs or whatever), happen to be 'right-wing thinkers'. Even Uncle Ted outlined the leftist archetype in his 1995 book that's still accurate to this day.

@sun I'm not entirely unconvinced that they're aren't affecting things at all, but it's still probably mostly through people starting to slowly notice, word of mouth and the "other side" having this much power and being extremely openly detestable

In the end, the actual only chance people have at stopping this dead in its track is to be principled and stop giving all of this money as much as you can

@thatbrickster if you a) know things need to change and b) don't think a failed 20th century mass murdering ideology is the solution then you are smarter than someone with a phd voting for kamala in the ways of being smart that matter. at least temporarily

@sun I'm just not gonna watch them, is all...

@sun @thatbrickster the rightwing is more tolerable only because we know them already. I feel much more stable around these parts knowing that the worst that'll happen to me for platforming trans people is that I'll be called a faggot alot. Likewise, I know what the mastodon side does to you when you slip up and still have enough self-respect to not immediately fall to your knees and profusely appologize

@lewdthewides @thatbrickster I am tired of being called stupid and insane for understanding that people can't live in a state of permanent revolution

@sun The way things are have pushed me towards taking up writing or podcasting on Substack. Unfortunately I don't have an audience nor do I have the means to compete for attention. I rant a lot but have been putting off putting them in words so I don't have to keep thinking about things.

I ain't no PhD but I am a gween tea drinker, and that's enough to motivate me.

@sun @thatbrickster

> in the ways of being smart that matter. at least temporarily

The way you get a really good score in Hotline Miami is to just do the most retarded thing you can, with no regard for whether or not it's retarded. Hopefully things don't get so chaotic that this is the best strategy in general.
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@coolboymew @sun E.G. "stop giving money to people who hate you".

@sun @RustyCrab sun, professional understander

it's just trading one larp for the other imo (far left, far right).
normal people are all outside already

@sun @thatbrickster I'm intolerant of both sadly the modern left might want to help people like me. But to radical and authoritarian for me because I'm not woke enough. The right some want me dead they don't care who they hurt but I'm not enough antiwoke. I see both as the same side of the same coin. Greedy and only care about profits. While I care about how can we take care of the earth and help people.

@sun Making manifestos and pretending it's art. I don't see how criticising that is detestable.

@sun I just think that woke social media is just as full of detestable grifters as the anti-woke side.

@jeffcliff @lewdthewides @thatbrickster who's using their real names

@pepsi_man @jeffcliff @sun @thatbrickster congrats on coming out

@jeffcliff @lewdthewides @thatbrickster what is the name that you would have put on an envelope to receive correspondence from your federal government

I usually say "government name" just substitute that if it makes you get what I am saying

@coolboymew @sun

> ...stop giving all of this money...

Fundamentally that means refusing to pay extortion (aka: taxes). Also boycott the shit out anything that contributes to the dystopia. Easier said than done, but it's really the only non-violent means available.

@jeffcliff @lewdthewides @thatbrickster if the stuff you're saying happens it doesn't matter what side of the network you're on

@p @sun @thatbrickster
Excellent advice. Conversely, trying to play through levels meticulously and carefully is a really bad idea. It's no fun spending 10 minutes trying to beat a level only to mess up and die. Better to speedrun it repeatedly and then eventually clear it in less than a minute.

@Bladural @sun @thatbrickster Yeah, I played it right after playing MGSV and RDR2 and you do things the opposite way in those.

@sun_eater @sun big fan of diversity (of liking things).

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@jeffcliff @lewdthewides @sun @thatbrickster are high level rightwing people talking about it or just basement dwelling shitpoasters?

@jeffcliff @lewdthewides @sun @thatbrickster he has said he wants to round up trans people and kill them?

@lnxw37b2 @Hyolobrika @sun

> I have never seen or heard any such thing from him. Nothing even close.

He's said that he wants a "very violent day" where the police can have no holds barred on illegal immigrants. He wants to expand the death penalty nationally for those who kill americans (quasi reasonable). And he wants door-to-door raids by ICE for not just illegal immigrants but currently legal ones (that he'll make illegal, later) along with some "criminals". He has crossed that line.

> John Kerry talking about repealing 1A is at least as much of a threat to our republic, because this is something that is verifiable versus campaign exaggerations.

Kerry is not running for POTUS. Trump is. Trump might not be responsible for everything that say steve bannon thinks, but he is responsible for what he actually says. And that has included making himself dictator, rounding up 10s of millions of people, and jailing political opponents. And no longer following the US constitution, something POTUS are supposed to be sworn to do.

And it's hard to keep up with -- Trump says outrageous things so often that it's easy to get numbed to it. But he hasn't stopped.

@jeffcliff @lnxw37b2 @Hyolobrika @sun wasn't the "very violent day" thing related to lootings?

@sun @RustyCrab @genmaicha hope all of the people in america i care about survive that shit

@sun @thatbrickster "left wing" is full of grifters like hontra, Hasan Piker the rapist, and other white boy podcasters who grew up upper middle class in Brooklyn. Of course there are right wing grifters too but it's more hypocritical on the other spectrum.

@sun @ageha am ngl I am highly disturbed by the amount of ppl here that support that and DiYing with bathtub hrt

@teratology @sun @ageha I'm surprised most people aren't like that. you're dead set on getting estrogen, why would you wait for a doctor to prescribe it for you and decide if it's for you? seems like the ultimate form of conformance. never seen someone have their mind changed during that period as well. just like, buy estrogen and inject it if you want ig lol

@meso @sun @teratology @ageha I don’t know a great deal about it but from what I’ve seen it’s generally easy to make and seems to be safe, and a lot of people wouldn’t be able to actually access that stuff via a more official path anyway, at least in Europe, not to mention places in the third world.

For the people who tend to get it, it’s probably far, far safer than the other kinds of drugs they take

@sun @meso @teratology @ageha personally I’m very libertarian on this, I think the best solution would be it being available over the counter like it is in places like Brazil. The best way to kill the cartels is to make it all legal and available to just order. People are responsible for their own decisions in such matters. The best providers will receive good reviews and good recommendations.

I’m fully pro transhumanism in general, if people want to go to some hobbyist surgeon to get adaptations and modifications done, I don’t think they should be prevented from doing that

@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @sun@shitposter.world @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu the us health system is so broken that both candidates in the elections have maintained their support in allowing overseas generics being mailed from online FOR YEARS. instead of trying to address the symptom maybe we should address the pharmaceutical companies <--> benefit managers <--> doctors iron triangle that basically just all bribe themselves at the expense of the payer instead of going against the free market emergency release valve for releasing pressure in an emergency

@sun @arcana @meso @teratology @ageha All drugs should be descheduled and the FDA should be disbanded and replaced with something like Underwriter Labs that rates the quality and effectiveness of different drugs rather than just preventing stuff from coming to market

@arcana @sun @meso @ageha who do you think funds and supports cartels?

@sun @arcana @meso @ageha

because a kid might kill themself if they can't shoot up girl drugs.

It is insane how people don't think of scenarios like this and go, "wow this child needs mental health treatment and support" and instead indulge them in choices they are not qualified to make for themselves.

And then we get people shitting on detransitioners who tell the world they were pushed into making choices they regret.

@meso @ageha @sun I mean this isn't surprising if you consider the amount of people who promote this sort of behavior normalizing being junkies and addicts.

seems like the ultimate form of conformance.

Gender non-conforming people existed before hrt and srs.

If you think troonshine is safe then you're an idiot. Autistic troons mostly try to make it available so they can target children because that's literally their fetish, but you thinking it should be able to be purchased by anyone really sells the "you're an idiot" angle imo

A lot of troons are literally dangerous psychopathic predators and pedophiles

@ageha @sun you are under the assumption I am not against all of these things. Even trans people I know in my personal life do not agree with allowing children to make life altering decisions. It shouldn't be controversial, but I think it is insecurity driving threats of hypothetical suicide. Many minors are going through a lot of turmoil during their development, this idea that only trans people suffer during puberty is absurd. People can make their own decisions once they're 18.

and the only thing gets banned is the one that saves lives.

FGM is banned in most of the west, either you're being obtuse or simply misinformed. Male circumcision has been normalized in the west because of Judaism and Islam, it doesn't make it right.

@teratology
(remove moon to not bother him more

i'm not talking about you, personally, but rather the targeted campaign you've fallen for and the motivations of the people who created it. see the terf conferences where people say this openly amongst themselves ①, and the mailing lists where politicians search for evidence to support their conclusions ②
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