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Speaking as someone who grew up in a stable family, then had to watch and interact with an entire generation of people who didn't....

No fault divorce wasn't a mistake.
It was Treason.

This is the reason no young people will marry or have kids... And everyone was complicit.
Churches most of all.

Preachers and elders could have done what their forefathers did when men and women abandoned their families: Excommunicate, exile, shame, and austricize the responsible parties the way they would with prostitutes or divorcees in the past.

Instead they derelicted the one thing that was clearly their responsibility: The social enforcement of the Marriages THEY PERFORMED.

Rome analogies are overdone, but this is the one thing where America does resemble the late republic, you read accounts of Rome in the first century BC and Julius Caesar, Pompey, Antony... Everyone had multiple divorces.

Then poor Augustus had to move heaven and earth and institute really draconian punishments to try and FORCE people to marry and have kids, Roman birth rates, and specifically aristocratic birth rates, were collapsing so dramatically.

And "Christian Conservatives" were the one who did it. Ronald Reagan passed no-fault Divorce and the Churches didn't hold the line and brutally enforce the old standard in the face of the legal change.

No one the various "Defense of Marriage" Acts didn't work to stop gay marriage. The Boomercons wouldn't defend their own marriages and children from the most minor romantic spats at the apex of American financial stability and living standards.

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@cjd

Divorce is murder on the kids

@amerika @cjd
True
Divorce is a jewish tool too wreck White society.
That’s why I hate Humpaluphagus.

@dj @amerika @cjd
My instance doesn’t allow me too scroll up and see who you’re talking shit about.

@dj @Jonny @amerika @cjd (he's joking)

@dj @Jonny @amerika @cjd ? no the mrf made it so he could not upload things, he could still post.

@Jonny @amerika @cjd My mother moved to Spain after living with my father since she was 19 until she moved when she was 48 15 years ago. They never divorced because she would never do that to him. He visited many times a year and they were still very close. At that point they loved each other too much for a divorce.

@Diceyocean @amerika @cjd
Were they both ugly?

@Jonny @amerika @cjd simply a question of personality. My mother doesn’t have a whore mentality to find another man at 48 because she still loved my father just in another way. It’s a question of feelings and class

@Diceyocean @amerika @cjd
The cool thing about ugly people is that they HAVE too stay married

@Jonny @amerika @cjd many women and men don’t understand the bond that can bind two people together. Another form of love. My mother cried as much when my father died as when her own mother died.

@Diceyocean @Jonny @cjd

...it's a hard thing, but often, it makes sense to find another partner even if they are not going to be what your original first love or adoring husband was.

@amerika @Jonny @cjd obviously a normal woman would. But my mother isn't a typical woman. She operates on a different dimension emotionally and is very independent. She doesn't really have a need to depend on a man to thrive. After so many years with my father she really didn't feel to do that. My father stayed for months at a time here though until he died in 2016. They still had a shared economy even. They had just separated solely by her moving. Obviously the marriage was over but it continued anyway

@Diceyocean @Jonny @cjd

I knew a lady like that once. She gave up the drama of marriage in order to be able to study ancient religious texts.

Your Mom sounds like an interesting person.

@amerika @Jonny @cjd she is very, how do you say, elevated spiritually

@amerika @Jonny @cjd you know the 60 year old women that go to the disco dressed as 18 year olds with leather boots and short skirt. I see it a lot with anglo and Nordic women here in Spain. She isn’t that type of woman

@Diceyocean @Jonny @cjd

those are the failures, escaping to the anarchy zone

@Diceyocean @Jonny @cjd

I must say she sounds like quite a lady and you are lucky to know her.

@amerika @Jonny @cjd thanks for saying that

@Vox @Diceyocean @amerika @cjd
Nice paragraphs, faggot

Problem is, women HAVE to marry early, otherwise get fucked by the ol' biological clock and then No Kids For You. I think parental involvement in the decision is the best way to minimize harm.

If you're asking ME, a contested divorce should go as follows:

1. The person who files walks away with whatever property is under THEIR name, that's it. Any "joint property" goes to the partner that didn't file.

2. No child support may be claimed unless custody is VOLUNTARILY forfeited. Custody goes to the partner with the ability to provide for the kids.

3. No alimony can be claimed by the filer. You will not be paid to file for divorce.

4. Visitation Rights -> No. In a contested divorce, there is no escaping the fact that each of the parents will each tell the kids horror stories about the other. There is no winning here, just cut the link.

Justification:
There are certainly cases which are SO BAD that walking away with nothing is superior to staying in the situation. In a perfect world, those people would be taken care of. BUT that is not the majority of divorces, and whatever "programs" you develop to take care of these people WILL be hacked.

> But if he beat her, surely she should have a stronger claim.

Whatever you reward you get more of. If you reward women who get beaten by their husbands, women will contrive ways to get beaten by their husbands. This is not a "woman" thing, it's a human nature thing.

The deterrence factor from making the rules so harsh will do more good for more people than the sum of all harm done for people in the extreme cases.

In case of doubt:
If both partners want to split up on agreed upon terms, I have no opinion on this. My parents negotiated a divorce in my teenage years and it did not negatively affect me. As best I can tell, they both ended up better off because their desired life paths were so different.

@cjd @Vox

I would prefer to simply get government out of the marriage business entirely.

Your marriage splits, you split up and go your separate ways.

Anything else creates a financial incentive for divorce.

@Jonny @amerika @cjd Hump is Jack Murphy's secret Fedi alter ego.

@cjd @Diceyocean @Jonny @Vox

Women can reproduce starting at thirteen and often continuing into their sixties.

The problem is raising the kid when you're older.

@Vox @Diceyocean @Jonny @cjd

Compilation of fiction about this
https://www.corrupt.org/boards/index.php/topic,83.0.html

@sj_zero @Vox @cjd

Heartily agreed although I think it should be recognized by law. We already have the rudiments of that framework with common law marriage.

@cjd @Vox @Diceyocean @Jonny @amerika They could start by not sending them to college.

Well, the point of marriage is to protect the woman from getting ghosted when she has the man's kids.

After 35 it gets a lot more risky, both for the health of the mother, and for the baby to have down syndrome or birth defects.

@KuteboiCoder @cjd I can dust your wets if you want...

@cjd @Diceyocean @Jonny @Vox

Depends on the race of the parents and their genetic health. The outbreak of tards seems to be a modern thing.

@cjd @Vox

Then it has failed.

@cjd America has long had a culture of divorce and the post-war trend of abandoning the traditional sacramental churches in favor of "conservative" evangelicalism that embraces "Americanism" has only exacerbated this problem. The "moral majority" was a trashfire of opportunist televangelists sucking of zionists and the Republican party to get a seat at zog's table.