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@sj_zero Honestly, with youtube there's practically no reasons for "pro" reviewers anymore

You can get your news directly from the publishers or some rando youtuber or RSS an indie gaming news site

You can see the red flags piling up from youtubers and co

You can watch a gameplay video around launch and that's that

Gaming journalism is dead and they keep bringing up reasons as to why it's dead

@coolboymew @sj_zero gaming magazines died with internet and all internet journalists are fags

@sj_zero @coolboymew nobody reads magazines anymore except for old people and doctors offices and probably those even less now since they have a phone and TV with some "the view" or oprah ripoff.

@coolboymew The "dead internet theory". The idea the internets actually dead and everything in it is fake. 90% of all traffic is all generated by ai whoch was launched against iran back in 2007. Ever since the ai developed by the us and israel been evolving into a self learning ai capable of communication, deception, dating, and other stuff.

Today that same cyber bug used to flood the iranian server is still active. Dumping all its self copy data as internet user profile, pics, and keeping the internet active which paints the illusion the internet is active. But in reality. Its actually dead.


Hence the dead internet theory.

(Same goes for review bots.)

@demonofustio what are you even talking about

@coolboymew trannies can't even troon properly in their language of choice.

@coolboymew "Dead internet theory"
And review bots being used to generate fake reviews on the forums to paints something that is good when it isnt.

@demonofustio First, the theory was schizo nonsense in the year it was written

Second, this is very much obviously not random review bots, but reviews from actual nameable outlets with an official review from their website

@coolboymew Yet its amazing the same outlet uses the same wording again and again. Dont you think. They programmed a bot to do it? That was my first assumption when looking at it.

The part you highlighted i mean

@demonofustio That means they were most likely paid to push a similar message mandated by EA you mongoloid

@PurpCat @sj_zero @coolboymew We just wanted ethics in gaming journalism.

@coolboymew Oh i thought it mightve been ai bit driven by the company that paid the journalist company to copy paste the message on the forums. Then you could be right. There was no bot involved. Just human fuckery from EA that we all hate.

@demonofustio I highly doubt the same company owns all these websites (it COULD be possible...), but the actual most likely thing is that they had terms and conditions for the reviews and/or are being paid for it (possibly holding websites advertisement as hostages)

I don't know if you ever saw a youtuber do a sponsor, you'll see they very much obviously seems to regurgitate pre-written lines that definitively isn't like their style, and then, another youtube says the same exact lines. This is that, it's very much mandated by the publisher

It's a "It's extremely dangerous to our democracy" line, made to regurgitate as is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mlx_DnIEo

@demonofustio @coolboymew Lots of those could still just be shills. NPCs are bots, just made out of flesh instead of silicon.
youtu.be/GME5nq_oSR4?t=74

@PoalackJokes88 @demonofustio it's entirely possible they coordinated between themselves too, we KNOW they have a journo list, but the pic about the mistranslation of it is just the cherry on top that screams publisher mandated line with something on the line for it

@coolboymew @demonofustio Lol, I was going to post that video, but then I remember an older one and found it was WAY harder to find. I almost thought it was deleted from the internet for a few minutes.

@coolboymew @demonofustio Yeah, I remember that AP style guide too when everyone started capitalizing "Black" and lower-casing "white". Fuck, or in the 2012-ish era there were several fake protests where it was 10 people clustered in front of a CNN camera.

@coolboymew I see a lot of the same messaging regurgitated from the same producers YT all the time on every youtube channel. But its not just YT. Its everywhere.

Like, you can see them on the forum on steam too when they go to do a review.
And instead of the regular review a normal gamer would do. You'd come across the ones that are for the game with the same messaging or youd come across the ones that are against the game.

I honestly think, what yeh said just now, big game companies like EA owns these review sites or or..... its owned by the jewish investors pulling the atrings from the shadow.

Very likely if thats the case.

@demonofustio @coolboymew my job posts chatgpt reviews on indeed.com and I'm sure they're not the only ones

@PurpCat @coolboymew I know! Because, heres an example:

My boss needs to file a report (she has no idea what to say) so she uses chatgpt to make the job easier for her.

Its crazy. Usually when i file report, i leave a few things out. Say how is. But its like folks forgot how to write down simple report. Which takes less than 5min to jot down.

@demonofustio @coolboymew well namely, they want to boost their reviews so people quit seeing the indeed reviews that say "THIS JOB SUCKS ASS".

@PurpCat @coolboymew So i tell my boss just write down the good things about this job not the bad. Yet she uses chatgpt. Im like

ITS A SIMPLE FUCKING REVIEW SAV SAV!!!!

@demonofustio @coolboymew she just goes to work to write emails in her Nissan

@PurpCat @coolboymew That video, i swear, she almost literally collided the NISSAN with another car

@demonofustio @coolboymew

@coolboymew @PoalackJokes88 So i got a testimony regarding how they organize these things.

So, when i was part of TLOUS community on jewtter back in 2021. The community is split between part 1 and 2. Both do not get a long what so ever.
You spark a controversy few days latter folks end up getti g swarmed by everyone.

So, someone posted abbyzilla killing the fatherly figure joe. And the character next to abby looks like a photo generated character of Neil drunkman the CEO of naughty dog entertainment.

So a couple of us joked about how itd be better if that was neil drunkman getting the golf club again and again rather than joe.


So few days later. I got swarmed with like 1500 hate reactions. But its didnt happen right away. First it picked up some like. Then, From the opposing community it got a lot of hate. But the hate were the same rhetoric, same format, same wording. Didnt feel generic.

But they did organize a few days in advance before they attack anyone on social media. Its literally what they do.

@demonofustio @PoalackJokes88 Bots DO happen on Twitter

@demonofustio @PoalackJokes88 which is part of the reason why nobody should be using these monolithic "everyone ever: the website", it makes this very easy

@PurpCat @coolboymew @sj_zero Even old people don't really read them anymore. Most have gone to online only, and they are a shadow of their former selves.

@sj_zero @PurpCat @coolboymew I think websites are just more convenient than having to deal with a bunch of magazines. That cause a lot of them to decline in quality since no one was paying for it. But I would have thought the move to the internet might have recovered them a bit, but they haven't. And then yeah, why pay for something you can get for free off reddit or YouTube?

@coolboymew @demonofustio I don't really think it's totally schizo nonsense, at least not anymore.

Go on websites like twitter with accounts that have zero followers and write something simple, directed at no one like, "I think covid is fake". You'd get a dozen of "first name + bunch'a numbers" accounts screaming at you. Same with literally any other hot button issue. Where did these accounts come from? Idk, certainly not from companies like Logically AI who were paid by governments and had back door access to social media sites to look for people talking about certain things and then deploying bots to try and shutdown the discussion.

On the other end, maybe someone like Mr. Beast isn't an AI generated person, but he isn't organic. The modern internet is an illusion of user generated content (and has for about a decade now), but for the most part it's all really just corporate content pretending to be user generated, or ads for things you should buy.

@Elliptica @demonofustio It might not be "anymore", but even that is debateable. "Everyone ever: The website" is a bad idea from the get go, and anywhere else smaller, we'd notice very quickly if some AI gets in. A paid shill would be generally more likely in most other cases

But otherwise, the theory was absolutely schizo nonsense and the post was too stupid to really "predict" anything

"Bruh, why are there the same threads posted again and again" we caught several of these on Gamefaqs, they just do it to be annoying, see the responses over and over again. It's actually that fucking simple in the end

@coolboymew @demonofustio Again, I'm not sure I buy that it's as simple as "people being annoying. Yeah, yeah, copypasta, but you can tell the difference between that an people using the same exact adjectives to describe things. Maybe everyone landed on "triumphant return to form for bioware"... but were there seriously no reviews that were like "it's a return to form, if that form was Mass Effect: Andromeda"?

I think it's as simple as:

>Review companies want to make money by getting access to popular or anticipated games early
>Companies that publish games also want to get money off good sales
>Companies that publish games force companies that review games to adhere to certain style guides and have "toxic positive" reviews.

Meanwhile, organic reviews from normal people are not impossible to find, but they don't impact the fabled metacritic score much if at all, and if you say too many negatives things you will be deplatformed. Maybe this isn't the dead internet the schizos wanted, but it's the dead internet we got.

@Elliptica @demonofustio bro, you only need a single schizo being weirdly persistent, that's literally all you need. As said, we literally saw this on gamefaqs. We had the butt fetishist making similar thread about slightly different girls for over 10 fucking years now

"Would someone really do that?" Yes, yes they would

>Maybe everyone landed on "triumphant return to form for bioware"... but were there seriously no reviews that were like "it's a return to form, if that form was Mass Effect: Andromeda"?

No idea, go check yourself but it seems obvious that EA mandated some big review box to shit out a canned line

>I think it's as simple as these review companies want to make money by getting access to popular or anticipated games early > Companies that publish games also want to get money off good sales > Companies that publish games force companies that review games to adhere to certain style guides and have "toxic positive" reviews

We've known that for years bro, but we've also known that game companies literally pay for advert and advert campaign on game review websites. All of this is nothing new

@coolboymew @demonofustio >bro, you only need a single schizo being weirdly persistent, that's literally all you need.

I know, but what I've seen people show is examples of "I have a zero follower account on something, I say something on a hot button issue to no one, or I say something that uses a bunch of buzz words, but as a jumbled incoherent mess, and then seconds later I have 3 or 4 accounts all using similar canned responses".

Like, that's proof of bots, or low income Indians, Israelis, or Chinese paid to search for key words and then reply with specific canned quotes. This is well documented (though maybe it's not as pervasive as just a year ago, or it's more subtle now). We also have the receipts from companies like Logically who were paid to do this sort of stuff. Sure, more popular things are not bots (again using internet celebrities as an example), but there are lots of these fake accounts and all they do is go around sewing discord trying to make you look discredited. But this also implies that a lot of the incidental content you do see online (like the NAFO stuff from a few years back) is likely astroturfed as well. Maybe it's not 100% bots, but it never needed to be.

Anyway, I feel like we're probably talking passed each other, or we're both sort of saying the same thing but in different ways, idk.

@Elliptica @demonofustio Okay, but, again, Twitter is ACTUALLY botted. I never contested this

Also Reddit is also actively AstroTurfed and we knew for ages. There's literally an article about that today
https://archive.is/y6cwF

@Elliptica @coolboymew @demonofustio Are you guys talking about dead internet theory? Can i introduce you to my bestest friend @nugger_ebooks ?

@Elliptica @demonofustio which is why we need to return to a separate internet, smaller forums, etc. Because botting is basically already only doable on "everyone ever: the platform" like Twitter, and astroturfing would also then lose all of its value if everyone is dispersed along 1000s of sites instead of 15ish sites

"how do we go back" is the question of our time