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In the US, Democrats are slightly more likely to admit a desire to subvert democracy than Republicans.

Most significantly though, both sides perceive the other as being VERY anti-democratic, contrary to fact.

Any attempt to subvert democracy by either side is probably going to be self-justified by claiming that it's to prevent the other side from doing it.

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@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org so far only republicans have actually stolen an election

@taylan https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/democracy/hiding-plain-sight might solve the sociopath problem but is a bit extreme

@anemone @taylan when have they done that?

@anemone Are you referring to the electoral college issue? I wouldn't call that "stealing" since the rule applies regardless of outcome and hasn't been challenged by either party the whole time. I do find the Jan 6th thing and Trump's conspiracy theory about the 2020 election being stolen to be somewhat frightening though.

The Democrats are showing more willingness to use censorship, but the Republicans seem more willing to ignore election results. Then again, Republicans would surely argue that the whole "he's not my president" thing that Dems did after the 2016 election means that "the Dems did it first." A lot of Dems were even arguing that the electoral college should ignore the outcome and elect Hillary. So, I see a reasonable argument to be made that the Dems started the whole anti-democratic stuff, as a reaction to Trump getting elected. That's really where all the craziness began, isn't it?

@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org I'm referring to the Bush/Gore election where the Bush campaign got the republican dominated supreme court to overrule the state judge and stop the florida election recount that, despite meddling by Bush's brother and other Bush Campaign officials, showed that Gore won in Florida

@anemone Huh, I never heard about that. I was a little kid during the Bush/Gore election.

What election did they steal? 🤔