@LordOfTheKangs It's just like "Brutalizing criminals and oppressing deviants is bad" but they never explain why it's bad
Is your response a critique of people that don't like fascism, or a critique of my explanation of why fascism is called bad?
@LordOfTheKangs Critique of people who don't like fascism
The jews made the term synonymous with authoritarian dictatorships in the normie mind. (if the a goverment does anything bad, they have been brainwashed into thinking that's fascism)
Originally it literally just means 'a Nationalist Anti-Communism/Bolshevism movement'
Nothing wrong with that, quite the contrary in fact.
@SuperOsten We need more fascism
They would not agree that fascism "brutalizes criminals and deviants." Instead, they say it brutalizes innocents and minorities. That the people in the camps aren't real but imagined enemies, scapegoats. Fascism supposedly will always need more scapegoats ans with that it is implied that it will turn on "normal people" once the first batches of scapegoat are done. This makes White people afraid of movements that are pro-White because they assume it is a lie or will spiral out of control to turn against normal people immediately.
@WandererUber@poa.st @PraxisOfEvil@poa.st @LordOfTheKangs@poa.st
Even if it were true, I think appealing to "and then they came for me" is a profoundly a-moral and disgusting argument.
Sure, the fashies will give you a stable middle-income job, efficient transport and safe communities... but they will take away your weed! and your porn!!
@WandererUber@poa.st @PraxisOfEvil@poa.st @LordOfTheKangs@poa.st
are these people even hearing themselves
The horror!
White people who believe it: The rot is very deep. They think that weakness is a virtue because they have been praised for being a faggy slave all their life. This makes them see themselves at the bottom of the pyramid in ANY non-communist system. They are told people at the bottom are exterminated for no other reason in fascism. They hear no counter-argument ever. They conclude fascism exterminates them.
basically:
The entire anti-fascist argument is built upon weak and misshapen freaks tying a rope around a baby elephant to a stick in the ground. When the elephant has grown up thusly, he is unaware that he could rip the stick out and trample the freaks underfoot. He gets whipped and hurt and he can't know a way out.
@WandererUber@poa.st @PraxisOfEvil@poa.st @LordOfTheKangs@poa.st
There's another level to it though - "the fash will take your weed and your porn" - it's the kind of gaslighting and misdirection and utterly contemptuous bad-faith argument that is aimed at douchebag, dudebro failsons that HR scolds utterly despise.
The "daterape demographic" you might call it.
@WandererUber@poa.st @PraxisOfEvil@poa.st @LordOfTheKangs@poa.st
You ignorant hicks!! Stop voting against your own interests!!!!
NO - NOT LIKE THAT
The bulbous end makes sure you don't tear anything.
Figured they'd work well for both purposes.
@WandererUber@poa.st @PraxisOfEvil@poa.st @LordOfTheKangs@poa.st
I call it "speaking power to proles".
"If a military strongman you idolize seized absolute power, you'd be on the first train to the death camps cuz you can't do 200 pushups" - speaking power to proles.
"When KamalaCop gets elected she's gonna throw you in jail, bigot, she's gonna bankrupt your shitty SUV dealership and save the earth #positivity #vibes #lovewins" - speaking power to proles.
"You just hate women and faggots for no reason, because you're afraid to be a faggot because your daddy spanked you with a belt when you were 3, please, for the love of god get help" - speaking power to proles.
"Jesus said render unto Caesar, now pay your taxes, chud" - speaking power to poles.
The stuff you posted is just nonsense pseudo-insults which are supposed to irritate the other and affirm your righteousness to people on the same team as you. I think the basic concept is universal to any society but the vitriol shows how spiteful and envious people become in this system.
@WandererUber@poa.st @PraxisOfEvil@poa.st @LordOfTheKangs@poa.st
Both...
the "Leopards will eat your face" shit about weed and porn is intended to be a persuasive argument but it's barely disguised contempt.
All the other stuff is undisguised contempt intended to shame and intimidate fashies from organizing.
Some people go "noooooo fascism and national socialism are actually right wing bro source: everything I don't like is right wing trust me bro", but historical facts show us that the creators of both ideologies were already strongly aligned with the left. Mussolini was a card carrying member of the socialist party, and Hitler was elected the leader of his Soviet during a German communist revolution. Seeing the problems with Class socialism, both of these leftists decided to try to create a new socialism with blackjack and hookers. One of the reasons Marxists hate fascism so much is that there's nobody socialists hate more than other socialists.
So one of the problems immediately is that socialism sucks. One of the reasons it pretty much always fails is that it contains a worldview that is flawed. It assumes that utopia can be obtained by just properly socialising the populace. That goes for fascism and German national socialism as well. If you hand a group of people unlimited power, then you're almost always going to have monsterous people see that and try to get into that one group that has unlimited power.
Systems that work over a long period of time find a way to balance power between different groups. The government is one group that has power, but typically so are the military, the merchant class, and the priesthood. If you give any one of these groups unlimited power, it doesn't turn out well, because each one is dysfunctional as a totalizing impulse even if each of them has their important role to play in society.
Another problem with fascism is described in my book: βThe truth is, everybody thinks that they want fascism because they imagine that fascism will do exactly what they want and nothing more. They look at all the groups of people that they do not like and they imagine that the fascists will go and clamp down on those people and then just stop. Reality is not so kind. Yes, the evil empire did go out and do reprehensible things to the group that they identified as causing the problem. Of course, you do not need to make any kind of choices to whether someone of that particular group caused any problems to realize that most people within any given group are not responsible for the actions of the few. Within any given group there are lots of people who are just trying to sit back and live their lives without hurting anyone. Despite that, this great evil empire went out and exterminated a people. They did not stop there though. To them, even amongst the people that they claimed to protect and try to save there were two sorts of people: those who supported the regime and those who did not. For many of those who supported the regime, they were given the means to gain tremendous wealth and power in a very short period of time. For those who did not, they had their livelihood stripped away, they were shunned, in some cases they joined the groups who faced extermination.β
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