@sensei the west education system... Failing since.... 1800's
@sensei yup. The scamdemic killed a lot of niche and small business
Which makes it worse imo, it wasn't like nobody was warning if these consequences.
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Aren't immigrants included in these tests? An influx of immigrants should have that result. Unless they all from India and Korea.
@sj_zero @MummaBear
I had students in a college introductory programming course who didn't know how to calculate a percentage.
@KeepTakingTheSoma @sensei @sj_zero I bet it's your asked UK students 10% could calculate 17% of an amount
@MummaBear @sj_zero Too many American college students can't read new words because they were never taught phonics in primary school.
@sensei @sj_zero @MummaBear is that because 50% of them were below average?
I might have mentioned this earlier but a lot of this has to do with devastating immigration. At least in Sweden it does.
The results for children are based on averages for all children. Including illiterate immigrants.
They have also brought violence and disturbance that affects all students and teachers.
@sensei @sj_zero @MummaBear
So crazy. It's per cent, the instructions are in the name!
Yup, that would do it. Regardless of mass immigration. Those phones are not breeding a healthy generation.
@FortyTwo @MummaBear @sensei @sj_zero
Some parents can set boundaries some can.
@FortyTwo @MummaBear No, I think it was the effect of Covid lockdowns on K-12 students. The effect was very noticeable post-pandemic. I observed (and other profs are reporting) grades going from a normal distribution to bi-model. The best students are doing well, but the middle has plummeted. During lockdown, students who were self-starters were OK. Those that were not had their education and social skills stunted and were passed by a dysfunctional K-12 system.
@MummaBear @FortyTwo Neither are many US schools in blue (Democrat run) cities.
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/at-13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-tested-proficient-on-2023-state-math-exam
@MummaBear @FortyTwo Back in the day, a student could graduate from secondary school and get a job in a factory.
My community college trains students for modern factory jobs. They need to know some electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, robotics, and have a working knowledge of statistics. The college has added courses for semiconductor manufacturing. Factory work now requires technical skills and a math background.
I've made a habit of going to going out with my son.
The first year he was alive it was too hot that summer. We read a lot instead, and there aren't many toddlers on the planet who have been read as many words as mine.
The second year, we went for walks in his stroller but he wasn't really mobile enough to go to a park for real, so we'd stop and swing on a swing now and again but not much else, and the focus was walking.
This year is the third year, and we've gone to the park from early spring until late fall. I got into the rhythm of going friday after work, twice or three times on Saturday, twice or three times on Sunday, and at least once on Monday. (Always once in the morning and once in the evening, and some days before supper and after supper)
I did this because I'm nuts and really think it's important to be getting outside like that and reading a ton and doing all these things, but I don't think everyone should hold themselves to the same standards I keep. However, one thing I eventually realized is that we basically had the park to ourselves. It wasn't just one park we went to, either. We went to several, and we almost always had them to ourselves.
We went on walking paths, had them to ourselves. We went to beaches, had them to ourselves.
I've called this phemonenon "living in ghost world". Walking around an empty world with no people, no parents, not even any kids.
I think people end up making the wrong arguments. I heard some people saying "Oh, parents don't have the money to do stuff with their kids", but I didn't spend a penny going to the park, walking on the walking trail, going to the beach (It wasn't anything fancy, just a rocky outcropping next to a creek you could sit on). These things were free, but nobody else was there. Sure, perhaps parents are working a lot, but I don't think most households have both parents working straight 12 or 16 hour days, there are such things as days off. You'd expect at least some parents would be able to spend an hour at the park.
I think it's devices.
I think after a long day's work, the parents sit on their phones, the kids sit on their tablets, and they just sit there consuming content. It's one of the few models that makes any sense to me. Even for parents who don't work (It isn't like welfare went away), why go outside when you can just slap a tablet in their hands and keep them quiet?
But the fact is, we are seeing the negative consequences of doing what everyone does. Parents have already built themselves up to whatever extent they will, but kids have not and if they don't get a chance to experience the world they'll head out not realizing there's an amazing creation just outside their door. If they aren't read to early, they won't have a chance to realize they have a grand cultural inheritance. If they aren't being taught letters and numbers early, then they'll lose the chance for their minds to wire themselves to these unintuitive concepts early. If they don't have morality taught to them early, they'll fall prey to the problems of liberal ideology (intended to apply to a state) becoming a totalizing ideology and the harm that causes.
@sj_zero @EvolLove @FortyTwo @MummaBear @sensei
The best things in life are free and real.
I tell my kids all of the time that when they watch people on TV, itโs exciting and entertaining only because the people on TV arenโt watching tv too. It doesnโt work though. Like all of us, they just want to watch a screen and do nothing as soon as they have a free moment.
Boredom is motivation we donโt get anymore.
@justinerickson @sj_zero @FortyTwo @MummaBear @sensei
As a kid at some point I stumbled upon the expression that boredom helps build character. I didn't understand it then but I can see it now.
Those moments of boredom served an important purpose. Time for contemplation and yes a great motivator.
@FortyTwo @MummaBear The programs were carefully designed to thoroughly prepare students for entry-level jobs. Students who put in the effort, graduated, and found good jobs with local companies. In my own area, local IT companies have employed many of my former students who are now doing quite well.
@justinerickson @sj_zero @EvolLove @FortyTwo @sensei being bored is important for brain development. I miss day dreaming
@MummaBear @FortyTwo In the US, community colleges (state-run two-year technical colleges) have a mission of "workforce development." They've been doing apprenticeships for many years in various technical fields. From what I've seen, it's worked very well. Students gain practical experience. Employers get to try out new employees before committing to hiring full-time.