"remember: it is your patriotic duty to vandalize Tesla's"
I can't imagine how painful it must be to belong to these people's tribe.
I imagine taking the hit to buy an impractical 60,000 dollar virtue signal just to have the meta change before the payments are up, and suddenly I'm having my car which I bought to save the world vandalized.
How can you guys claim to have empathy for people who aren't like you when you don't even seem to have empathy for the people who are exactly like you?
Everyone part of that tribe feels terrible all the time, but no one realizes that it's the tribe itself that's making them feel bad. And if you feel better after leaving the tribe you're an evil brainwashed devil. Can't help these folk.
@7ed7d5c3abf06fa1c00f71f879856769f46ac92354c129b3ed5562506927e200@sj_zero people I've known who joined those groups on the internet killed themselves because they're around paranoia forming fear porn 24/7 "Trump is gonna do this and that" every time you log in makes you one step closer to "hey guys I guess that's it"
@sj_zero you make a solid point, but I do want to point out that pumping everyone on the left into one comically ridiculous basket is very much like someone on the left lumping everyone on the right into a similar comically ridiculous basket.
"They're all uneducated racists who hate women and have zero empathy".
I'm sure we've all seen that inaccurate portrayal and know that it's inaccurate, or at least not all inclusive. Same applies here. Not everyone who is critical of Musk advocates for vandalizing Teslas and dehumanizes their owners. Some people criticize Musk and are still capable of critical thought.
The serious problem today is getting some form of working discourse going between those capable of critical thought on either side of the political spectrum. We all honestly have more in common than we have that separates us, but sensationalism sells and wins you clicks. Being respectful and willing to listen generally does not.
The quote I showed is a quote. Someone said it today. That's why I responded to it today.
I'm willing to break bread with reasonable people and even some fairly unreasonable people. Neither side of the political spectrum has a monopoly on truth and multiple things can be true at once even if they're contradictory. But I see someone saying something silly, I'll probably mention it.
@sj_zero >How can you guys claim to have empathy for people who aren't like you when you don't even seem to have empathy for the people who are exactly like you?
conectar a monde => conectar a pueblos diferente. los izquierdistas conectar la humanidad para todas los izquierdistas creer solidaritas y creandose solidaritas benificar los pueblos ercana los pueblo cercana sans solidaritas a mundo => morte
No, that is not. It is a consequence of living in a world where we can have access to people around the world on our desk that we can have relationships with people outside of the narrow bounds of geography and local inbreeding
@sun@sj_zero leftists have affinity for foreigners over kin. thats why they all sympathize with the bugs in starship troopers and the killer robots in hell divers
@jeffcliff@sj_zero@realcaseyrollins that shit's always either a "scientific" justification for hating conservatives or the ravings of a completely cooked, living in a cracker barrel, talking to rocks insane cultist
cuando amenazada, patriotisma - ejemplo canada, ukraine
( still unclear on the definition of 'shitlib' but i've seen a lot of people call us leafs that and there's *lots* of patriotism in the face of US aggressive trade policy to be found here. either we are shitlibs (and care about patriotism when push comes to shove) or we aren't(and this is a bad example)
ie "when threatened from without especially with force" -- also see ukraine )
@jeffcliff@sj_zero I remember years ago someone telling me that canada wasn't infected by patriotism and never saw canada flags being flown like in the USA but I was there in like 2004 and they were everywhere. no reason for bringing that up just was interesting
@sun@sj_zero part of me wonders if the wretched shitlib problem isn't something similar to the mole rat failsafe. they're all extremely inbred, but 1 out of a litter will leave the nest to find a different pack to avoid breeding themselves into a family wreath.
@jeffcliff@sun@sj_zeroWell Jeff i would say shit lib is a notch worse than libtard. Not as bad as full blown leftist. At least that's my opinion. It's all just derogatory terms at the end of the day
@sj_zero@jeffcliff its really weird how they rammed french down everyone's throat making it required by law to put everything in both but then you go into ethnic enclaves like chinatown and signs aren't even in english and nobody even gets punished
@sj_zero@social.fbxl.net Not in favor of vandalism but I do want to add that the meta didn't suddenly change. Elon Musk was always bad. Tesla was always bad.
@Alex@boymilk.cafe Only by greenwash scams. Everyone always knew that the best thing you could do for the environment is not buy a car in the first place.
ngl I can get behind that to a large extent without any politics at all. The guy's like a circus carney, and most of his fortune is from making people think he had a lot more success than he did. Has he *ever* met a deadline?
@hakui@sj_zero The way I saw that explained away is that only a Trump fans are buying Tesla now so you can ethically take their money and let someone else destroy it. Like selling a ticking bomb.
"Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" used to be the mantra, and it was presented in order of importance. Reduction is number one, reuse of what you do need to use is number two, and finally, recycling what can't be reused is the least effective last resort. Nowadays, the mantra has just become "Recycle, Recycle, Recycle" - and by "Recycle", we usually mean "ship it off to a landfill somewhere out of sight".
EVs as a class of vehicle are about a tenth as useful as a real car, so if teslas get down to about 1/10th of their normal price in the used market I'd probably even get one.
@pepsi_man@Zettour@hakui@sj_zeroDodge Ramcharger will be electric drive trugg with a big fuel tank and battery. Mazda has several models coming out. Hybrids are neat tech.
@BowsacNoodle I kinda figured that full EV would die out bc it's unrealistic in America.
Hybrids are the reasonable, albeit unnecessary, compromise.
Realistically, climate change is bullshit and obsessing over fuel efficiency has only gotten us to marginal returns that much faster. @Zettour@hakui@sj_zero
@pepsi_man@Zettour@hakui@sj_zeroHybrids may be unnecessary, but if you think about it, it's kind of awesome to have the extra ponies when you need it from electric. The Prius is one of the best designed cars from a mechanical and systematic standpoint. It's basically a masterpiece of engineering, and I say that knowing full well that the people who often drive them are insufferable. I'd rather see hybrids used for performance boost rather than just relying on turbos which we know will likely shorten the lifespan of an aluminum block engine.
@BowsacNoodle@pepsi_man@Zettour@hakui@sj_zerobought a Prius in 09, stll get over 40 mpg, 42 in the city. When it finally dies, I will get another one. Driven it across country several times.
@BowsacNoodle@sj_zero@Zettour@hakuiGas generator or diesel? I've been talking to a buddy about how and why don't they do diesel-electric cars like they do trains.
@BowsacNoodle They're neat for sure, but whatever they offer isn't worth the added complexity.
Modern ICE vehicles are already difficult to work on for the average Joe, and now they want to add hybrid drive shenanigans?
We're heading backwards in terms of car ownership. Eventually they'll be so expensive to own and maintain that even a Corolla is unaffordable for anyone that doesn't make a surgeon's wage. @Zettour@hakui@sj_zero
@pepsi_man@BowsacNoodle@Zettour@hakui@sj_zeroThis is why I have a frame title for an old Jeep (title only). I can literally buy all the parts out of a Quadratech catalog and assemble it myself with a bit of help.
The end goal is to have something on which you can confidently fix most problems.
Look up Simon Fordman or Vicegrip Garage on youtube, teach yourself those tricks and you'll never get stranded again. @BowsacNoodle@Zettour@hakui@sj_zero
@BowsacNoodle@pepsi_man@Zettour@hakui@sj_zeroYeah I think the association of Prius with libshittery was unfortunate. This sort of thing happens too often, imo. Probably the first serious powertrain innovation in half a century - must be faggotry.
@brimshae@sj_zero@Zettour@hakuiEither TBH. The reason they do it for trains is the torque and general efficiency. Cars can do the same. Higher torque at the front wheels and higher efficiency at the rear, for example. I like the individual wheel motor designs.
@brimshae@pepsi_man@Zettour@hakui@sj_zeroVery clever idea. Have you seen the ring drive tech they have now? They have individual wheel motors with just to configure them to replace existing stock wheels and keep approximately the same weight at the wheel.
Back in the 60s they tried to make a car that can use a turbine engine. Turbines have some really cool features that could make them more efficient than piston engines, and way fewer moving parts so they could last way longer, but they also don't really want to be doing what cars do, spinning up and down constantly to deal with the ups and downs of driving.
Seems like a big use case for generator electric, to be able to focus on building your turbine generator to be simple, reliable, and efficient.
Of course one problem with all this is if they build cars that last, nobody will need a new car every 5 years...
I have a set of PIAA silicone windshield wipers on my car. They've been on my car since February 2020 and they're still going strong. Anyone who has ever owned a car in a place that gets sun and snow in the same year will recognize that's an absolutely absurd amount of time to have the same set of windshield wipers. Nobody's trying to sell me a set of these, because replacing wiper blades every year is a useful business model. A turbine engine could potentially last for a million miles and only has a few parts.
@hakui I just learnt today about something called Santa-ism. Basically a form of thinking where you assume stuff just exists, and the limiting factor is who distributes it.
