@sj_zero @SiRrogueKnight "Embrace the healing power of 'and'!"
But not I think in this case. Musk is a far longer time horizon guy than Trump or almost all of the GOP. And anyone can do the numbers to see annual multi-trillion dollar deficits will lead to ruin and fairly soon. Like long before he can set up a Mars colony.
He and many others also have a point about the Congress being unwilling to codify DOGE cuts. I think Team Trump gave up for a while after 26 GOPe senators voted against doing that in March, and are now trying what's clearly a trial balloon of only ten billion.
Note it has to be in rescission bills because only "mandatory" spending is germane for reconciliation, and there DOGE cuts like "remove everyone over age 120 from Social Security" sticks.
OK, there is one good kayfabe argument I just came across, although again "embrace the healing power of 'and',": this demolishes the Democrats' "oligarchy" argument.
While it grossly overstates the case by claiming this is their "only" talking point, or that they've stopped calling everyone Nazis, skip about two thirds down and see what you think of this Jew's thesis that "All at once, their “Fighting Oligarchy” talking point became a muddled, incomprehensible mess.":
@SiRrogueKnight @sj_zero On the other hand, this is not kayfabe:
"Elon Musk @elonmusk
"Time to drop the really big bomb:
"@realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
"Have a nice day, DJT!
"2:10 PM · Jun 5, 2025"
But why wouldn't the Deep State have already used this???
"Well, time to go. My 180 days are up. Thanks, Mr. President, it's been fun."
"See you around, Elon. I have a feeling we'll need you later on. Say, want to do some good on the way out, and have some fun doing it?"
"Oh, I'm always up for a good time. What did you have in mind?"
"Wanna pretend to have a public feud? You could force my hand on a few things."
"Nice! Like maybe releasing some dirt on the electric car industry?"
"Even better: Accuse me of being in the Epstein files. Then I'll have no choice but to release them."
"Oo! Consider it done."
Yeah, the notion that the Deep State had this but somehow sat on it through THREE election cycles, when they could have just orbital-dropped it and left Evil Cheeto a smoldering crater (any collateral damage would be readily handwaved away), is a non-starter.
@SiRrogueKnight @sj_zero OK, another thought: Musk may be preparing for 2029 when Trump is no longer president, as I said he thinks very long term.
Meanwhile, Elon has many big sticks in reply to Trump's Truth Social threat to cancel SpaceX's contracts:
"Elon Musk @elonmusk
"In light of the President’s statement about cancellation of my government contracts, @SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately
"3:09 PM · Jun 5, 2025"
Boeing's Starliner is a deathtrap, ULA only has 14 man rated Atlas V's left (production shut down by Congressional mandate to stop using Russian RD-180s for its first stage); the ISS would have to get by with Soyuzes and SpaceX also got the contract for a super duper Dragon variant to dock with the IISS and force it into a controlled reentry (there was much hysteria when Skylab came back to earth).
Going further, no SpaceX contracts, lots of Deep State satellites will be gathering dust stay in dust free clean rooms because ULA's Vulcan Centaur is currently very iffy as the usual suspects try to "pencil whip" it into shape for a third flight with a first national security payload after a new SRB variant lost a nozzle on the last flight (but in a real test it accommodated that asymmetrical trust loss...).
And forget about the Golden Dome, Starlink's military angles from custom satellites to simple communications, etc. etc. etc.
@pcachu @SiRrogueKnight @sj_zero OK, this is credible kayfabe to force their release!
Although I think the Deep Staters might have been worried a non-full enough release of "the Epstein files" would have burned too many of them, including ones directly invoked in suppressing this.
These are not a class of people who'll fall on their sword to rid themselves of the turbulent Evil Cheeto, especially since he was not really bad ... until he went after USAID et. al. through Musk....
@pcachu @SiRrogueKnight @sj_zero As usual, America's paper of record does the best reporting:
"Judge Determines Trump Will Get The Nation On Weekdays, While Musk Gets Every Other Weekend And Holidays"
Yet to be determined per a Dr. Richard Harambe @Richard_Harambe:
If Trump and Elon divorce who gets custody of catturd?
I think the Fedi is going too enjoy this saga more than any other platform.
I don’t see how both of them can escape becoming anti semitic. I bet Elon goes full on Hitler.
I think Elon is driven by self interest, but I think his special kind of autism forces him too at least consider humanity.
I can’t wait for Elon’s next appearance on Rogan. It’s gonna get spicy.
Remember his first appearance where he was super thoughtful in his responses too Rogan? Now that he’s been on a few times, he is super lax.
Why do you think Rogan had Bono on? Bono doesn’t even seem like Rogan’s kind of guy.
I’m sure that Elon has read/seen plenty of holocaust memes and has done the math in his head countless times.
I couldn’t stomach even watching the Rogan/Bono short clips.
@Captain80s @SiRrogueKnight @sj_zero "Or being that way and rich he has no clue what an average person is cause he has lived in a different world his entire life."
Musk wasn't rich after he escaped South Africa for Canada.
And to further the point by @Jonny with degrees in physics and economics, he could certainly do the math on the claimed extreme extent of the Holocaust, Could also have noticed the many Jews involved in destroying South Africa like Joe Slovo.
If he just would have stayed non-political, I would have never lost respect for U2, but they went huge gay.
Huh? Are you serious? Bugging me? Are you kidding me?
IMG_8462.gif

I wish I could say that I thought he was a terrible singer. I can’t, though.
I just think he’s a retard.
Listening too lyrics has always been a problem of mine. Lyrics have never been a thing I cared about.
I still sing:
🎵 Lucy in disguise with diamonds
Instead of:
🎵 our lips are sealed
I sing:
🎵 honest Lucile
I’m still kinda expecting a collapse of some kind.
Think of abusive Jonny as that mean drunk father/husband that you luckily didn’t have too grow up with.
Some people on here get viscerally agitated with drunk Jonny, like it’s a throw back too a terrible time in there lives.
Can.
Been thinking about a Lego build.
No. I don’t know any Filipinos. Filipinos stay in Waipahu. They never hang out in town side for some reason.
I went too a strip club in Waipahu 6 years ago thinking it would be full of Flippers, but it wasn’t.
Buzz kill.
Who? The strippers? Practically all the strippers in Hawaii are from the mainland. You can’t be a stripper in Hawaii and also be from Hawaii. You’d bring too much shame too your local family.
There’s a strip club near me with a 24 Hour Fitness directly across the street. All the strippers are in that gym doing squats and hogging the squat racks all day.
If I can be an example (positive or negative) I’m happy too proclaim it.
I’ve only been too strip clubs here a handful of times. It’s mostly White chicks from the Midwest that didn’t make it as movie stars in Hollywood.
My mean drunk Jonny persona is mostly an act.
Getting mad at drunk Jonny is probably like when a psychologist gives their patient a punching doll.
My actual mean posts when I’m sober are deadly.
Yes.
The scalp group on gab was amazing.
Your premise is flawed. Everyone thinks that I have some kind of designs on HockeyDoxie. I don’t.
She is the exact type of person that I don’t like in real life, HR.
I keep hearing about the faggot tourney but I assure you that it’s only because people take drunk Jonny too seriously.
If I flew Hockey out too Hawai’i, she’d sue me for male chauvinism because I opened her car door.
I’ve only heard about the faggot contest, because I follow NonPlayableClown. I think NPC has even entered me into the faggot contest.
I don’t remember saying that, but I have done that.
I had an old girlfriend who used too be a gorgeous Russian lady. I flew her out too Hawai’i once and she had gained a lot of weight. The kind of weight that kills boners. I didn’t have any dick pills so I had too reach deep into my spank bank.
She flew out again (on her own dime), and I just had too drive away. I was fucking furious. Who comes too Hawai’i fat? Retarded bitches who think the world revolves around them. That’s who.
Believe it.
I hate fat White women almost as much as I hate jews. It’s a very close 2nd.
I would love too see Apoc and Doxie spend one week in eachother’s company. Recipe for Murder (Agatha Christy novel).
Believe me, I’ve seen what niggers will make love too.
They’re all going back too Liberia when I’m in charge.
Bullshit. You and Apoc meet in a neutral country like Cocainistan, and try too hatch out a kill Jonny plan. It goes sideways immediately.
Have you ever been bitch slapped?
Barbara Walters loves this scene…
IMG_8463.gif

au contraire mon frère
That’s French, for “you’re full of shit”
"You get your ass in there and fag it up son"!
🤣
you make one hell of an entrance?
Look Mick, all these Fedi chicks are yours. If I slap them around a little and they still come at me, then you might need too reconnoiter your thought processes
Go be a pooping jew on gab.
Ok. You think you have the chops too talk too Kiki.
I am doubt.
You are an NPC.
We are not the same, HR.
I can get booted tonight and have 100 of the best people following me tomorrow, retard.
You are supposed too be a married lady with an amazing recipe book.
You are cranking up the hate machine. I am the hate machine.
Alex Gleason is one of those jews that pretends too be a White guy back in the 80s.
Matty!!!
You got weird fuckers on here.
Perhaps Jonny should consider choosing a safe word for when things become too intense.
I’m supposed too be the intense guy.
I saw you 2nd the motion for Jonny being the faggot contest winner.
Show me the trophy, fuck face.
I bet I can build a trophy that you’ll win hands down, faggot.
Can you speak engrish?
Your mom thinks she’s cute because her name rhymes with clitoris.
Here’s what I do.
I walk into used clothing place and buy a 5th place soccer trophy, just like the kind you used too win. 🏆
If you can eat as many chicken nuggets as I can, you can call yourself, FUCK FACE OF THE WORLD.
No.
I’m telling you assholes that if I fly HockeyDoxie out too Honolulu, she’s gonna show up UNFUCKABLE.
Now I’m the bad guy?
No!
I hate fat people.
Simple as.
Lose my number, please.
You know you love my gluteus Maximus pics.
You keep trying too be sexy.
Huh?
I have never once tried too have sex on the Fedi.
If I want sex, I’ll step outside my apartment.
Stay in Iowa, bitch.
I have belt buckle from your state.
You will never have sex with me.
IMG_8464.gif

Keep your gigantic ass on the east side of the river.
You’re one of those guys keeps drunk Jonny kitchen clips?
Yer dead, jew.
The Hell’s Angels used too be cool until they became overridden with jews.
I see you recording kitchen clips, jew
What motorcycle club are you with?
I knew a Hell’s Angel that wanted $1,000 per day.
He didn’t care if his bread was made from plastic.
He brought 3 Subway sandwich shops.
I can murder your motorcycle friends.
I can hurt your motorcycle friends.
I’ve seen your motorcycle friends go downhill.
I grew up in Rapid City, South Dakota.
We both know.
We all know that you and ApocLatte are the perfect match.
What’s your mom’s name?
Go be a yenta in Australia.
You can’t find anywhere in this thread OR any thread, where I said that I like you.
Every dude on here wants too have sex with you, except me, bitch.
Fuck you, potato 🥔
What’s your mom’s name?
I don’t take dick pills.
Imagine if your young lover gained a few pounds.
Now imagine if your you lover was unrecognizable because she was enormous.
My dick works just fine, fatty.
I hate fat White women.
You’re supposed too be married, aren’t you?
Stay in Kansas, bitch.
I don’t need too show medicine cabinet.
We all know that you prefer black guys.
Go have sex with ANYONE on the Fedi. You’ll never hear from me again.
I have never reached out too you.
I literally hate you, bitch.
I like women, but not you.
Please forget that I exist.
Everyone wants too have sex with you except me. And you refuse too have sex with them.
You are so fucking gross.
Correct!!!
You need a nigger.
You had sex a couple of times, but you we’re terrible at it, weirdo.
Murder is so awesome.
@Jonny @mar77i @Captain80s @HockeyDoxie @Red_Hat @DC5FAN @mjdigspigs @NonPlayableClown @ThatWouldBeTelling @sj_zero
You're gonna murder someone?
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhIsAZO5gl0