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@ins0mniak @Tony

It's not what happened. No decision was made. The time to respond was set and the hearing is on Thursday.

Why would Nick Sortor lie to me

@Humpleupagus @Tony @ins0mniak @mitchconner

And I think the precedent is more important than the immediate issue anyhow.

DC: "The National Guard *is* the state militia; you don't need a militia on top of that."
Also DC: "We can use your Guard against you and there's nothing you can do about it."

If the precedent is accepted it could undermine the whole DtG effort.
https://tracking.tenthamendmentcenter.com/guard/

Yeah so I have a fact check for your fact check

https://deadline.com/2025/06/newsom-trump-national-guard-los-angeles-1236429777/

>"Plaintiffs’ motion is legally meritless,” declares a Tuesday afternoon filing

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Trump will chicken out like it's TACO Tuesday. Because he always does in the end. He ain't no strongman. He's a soft showman.

@mitchconner
Pointing out that you're on the wrong side of the issue does not make me a baby.

That's Trump's response.

OK libshit

Seems like an awful lot of news gets made and unmade based on preliminary TROs.
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I think the issues is State Law vs. Federal Law. Newsom's argument seems to be that troops can only be deployed in the streets if there's an insurrection effecting state law. Trumpsl'a point is that the administration is unable to enforce federal law or that it is specifically being effected even if state law is unaffected. They may not argue it that way, but that's the undercurrent.

For example, Newsom impliedly argued that troops can only be deployed to protect federal buildings. I assume Trump will respond that federal jurisdiction doesn't end at the edge of a building, but rather extends into the places it is enforced.

@Humpleupagus @Tony @ins0mniak @mitchconner

Vegan MGTOW kept on saying that 2025 June 11 there would be a fake nuclear attack on Seattle Washington which is the same day as the deadline set in that letter or document

@VeganMGTOW

Tiresome

Injunctions are usually bullshit. In state civil matters, the moving party has to post an undertaking to pay the non-moving party damages if the injunction is granted, but the moving party loses the case. The undertaking can't be discounted based on likelihood of success on the merits either. It must cover the entire cost if the case of lost. So this acts as a deterrent from seeking BS relief.

Unfortunately, this rule doesn't apply here, so the decision will be arbitrary based on he judges political position.

It looks like this judge was a Clinton appointee from 1997. It's hard to peg a 90s Democrat without looking deeper.

@Humpleupagus @Tony @ins0mniak @mitchconner Disagree in part: immediate granting of ex parte TROs which technically can't be appealed is very much a trope of our current regime of Inferior Court Supremacy.

Also beware of an instant appeal to the Ninth Circus Circuit. The ACLU did that in an illegals case after giving the Texas district judge 42 minutes to rule (and got swatted down, then the Supreme Court both granted it and chastised the inferior judges; look for Judge Ho's "not a Denny's" scathing towards the Supreme Court order for lots more).

One thing any legal mind with a clue will be thinking about is that Trump can instantly trump this legal action with the Insurrection Act. In fact, from the 1994 timing of 10 U.S. Code Β§ 12406 after G. H. W. Bush's invocation of the former for the 1992 Rodney King riots, I'm pretty sure it was passed (and by Democrats) to give a president a less powerful tool if needed.

I thought he was already asserting that he is acting pursuant to the insurrection act to get around the recent amendment to posse comitatus that now includes the Marines.

@john @Humpleupagus @Tony @ins0mniak @mitchconner I don't think that'll happen, there are so many ways the President can Federalize the National Guard, like for duty overseas, one ruling like this one, on one fairly narrow law (10 U.S. Code Β§ 12406) isn't going to make a difference.

Especially when D.C. indeed insists on having it both ways, hating with passion the citizens who make up the "unorganized militia."

I haven't looked at it, but I'm pretty sure a tro can be appealed interlocutory, especially if it is effectively final in nature.

@Humpleupagus @Tony @ins0mniak @mitchconner Not as far as I know or just checked with Brave AI.

He's been implicitly at minimum threatening it, but for now the Marines in LA, 700 vs. the 4,000 National Guardsmen there or on the way, are not on the front lines.

There's of course plenty for them to do to support the Guardsmen, plus in extremis they're a reserve if things get really life threateningly bad.

Marines unless MPs, and I don't think these are or mostly are, are also a very very bad choice for a front line job like this. Too likely to kill innocents, as for example has happened on the southern border.

Maybe duty in the sandbox has changed that, but it would be bad to count of that, especially since there will be some number of newer lower ranking ones without that experience.

@Humpleupagus @Tony @ins0mniak @mitchconner I have seen the first page of one recently appeals court document that started out saying "TROs and preliminary injunctions are basically the same thing," so....

The point is that the substance of an order, and not the name the court gives it, is what matters.

@mitchconner @Tony @ins0mniak And here's the guy tasked with the job: Snake Plissken

Oh, thank God, they hired a sign language interpreter. This is crucial since closed captioning hasn't been invented yet 🀑

Also, lol she's still blaming this on Trump for the ice raids, but she's openly admitting that there was violent rioting

I'm so tired of these people's warped idea of responsibility.

Hahahah Karen Bass just said that there are industries where the vast majority of workers are foreign and highlighted "gardeners and nannies"

Racist democunt. Literally the same gaffe Kelly Osborne did years ago

@mitchconner @Tony "immigrants" lol

STOP TRYING TO TAKE OUR SLAVES

The true democrat platform since day one

@mitchconner @ins0mniak i miss when they were openly racist

I replied to the wrong thread I was trying to copy in everybody who was watching last night. CC @IAMAL_PHARIUS

@Tony @mitchconner its cheap af labor they like, that's about it lol

Yeah, exactly. But the thing is, all this DEI stuff is openly racist. They're saying that white people are so much better than everybody else that they need laws to give the rest of humanity a fighting chance to compete.

@mitchconner @Tony @ins0mniak fuck your garden and take care of your own kids

Yeah, anyone who actually pays a gardener to take care of their yard and can fuck right off seriously.

@mitchconner @Tony That's how they think man. They spend more time obsessing about race than most hardcore racists

O shit he's gonna go eat some pineapple chunk I just know it

Couldn't have asked for nicer weather for all this, huh?