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I know Mozilla needs to cut cut cut since the Google gravy train is going away imminently, but I'm surprised their mastodon instance is even on the radar.

I guess I just think of something like that as basically free, especially since mine is basically free.

I guess they can't run it that way though, since they're not an open web organization but an activist organization. That being the case, they need top down dictatorial control and that costs big money.

@sj_zero Does yours have a lot of users? Mine is also basically free (about 1 pizza a month) but I'm also the only user on it.

I've got about 50 accounts, but not a lot of people actively using theirs.

Yeah, because everything has to fit with their brand image.

It's not easy letting go.
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@sj_zero Isn't @stux in the red over server hosting costs? I've seen multiple servers go down as well due to financial reasons.

Running a popular instance isn't as expensive as it could be, but it's also not cheap.

The one thing that's a little bit different between the two is I would expect a web company like Mozilla could locally have whatever servers they need, which fundamentally changes the calculus. Paying for hosting separately on something as dynamic as the fediverse would get a lot more expensive.

@realcaseyrollins @sj_zero it doesn’t help that Mastodon is an ultra-mega-heavyweight in terms of resource usage per active user.

I'm on different platforms so I've never dealt with mastodon directly. Could be!

@sj_zero @realcaseyrollins I love me Akkoma instance running on 7 generation old hardware reverse proxied thru a $2/year VPS,but that infrastructure is a result of me trading time (and painfully gathered expertise) for not having to pay much

@sj_zero @realcaseyrollins @clawfulneutral Mastodon is a Ruby on Rails system.

One upside, though, is people know how to scale them to a fair degree.

Most brutal platform for federation I saw was php -- Friendica took forever to federate when I used it, but even kbin was pretty slow. (Though community based federated systems like kbin use way more everything than simple mastodon style federation)

A fedi instance with hundreds of clueless opinioids is not really a fedi instance.