The injured patrol officer could sue the city for not following the laws, which mandate a minimal length of detainment for certain crimes, none of which were followed.
@sgsterp @YoungBlood I hope he sues the city into oblivion.
@sj_zero @YoungBlood From what I can find NYC and/or NY state believes he owes them back taxes, that doesn't magically go away if you end your business in the state and move out of it. And it's something other states conceptually recognize as valid since they all collect taxes as well.
@cjd @sj_zero @YoungBlood Doubt there's ever been a government without taxation in some form. Even possibly examples like today's oil rich nations do the equivalent by keeping for themselves the revenues for that, perhaps handing out some of them as they see fit.
So your argument devolves into one against governments, or really the particularly evil US state ones like NY/NYC's. But even relatively benign Red ones like mine are still part of the union....
A sharper take could be found on Red states observing warrants for "gun crimes" that aren't such in their own states and don't touch on anything Federal ... except there's "felon in possession" for the latter, and I suppose the states as well.
@cjd @sj_zero @YoungBlood That's a Mandate of Heaven argument, which is entirely valid.
Although this guy has moved to Texas, right?, a state that even goes so far as to be the only one that either allows use of lethal force to protect property after a verbal warning, or requires a grand jury for all inducements (the latter something the Supreme Court for some reason hasn't enforced on the states WRT to the 14th Amendment).
But getting to hard cases, a government's first duty is self-preservation, which means collecting taxes is non-optional, it's necessarily one of its highest priorities after, say, defending its own functionaries.
Here the problem goes back to my first point, anarcho-tyranny (the name for what you identified) as a form of war on its own people. Who our ruling trash don't see as their own people. Compare to the Soviets with lots of Jews below philosemitic if not a quarter Jewish Lenin, then non-Slav Stalin.
For most people in these Blue US states, and the US altogether prior to a circulation of elites Trump 2.0 is still fishing in the Rubicon about, it's exactly as you said, occupation governments. Which use various pre-occupation institutions and norms like extradition to enforce their will against people who've fled them.
No pretense about legitimacy except to the people they consider their own and their own myth making, it's raw force on the rest, and would be infinitely worse if we weren't well armed. A cold civil war....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Francis_(writer)#Thought_and_legacy
Defending the safety and property of the tax payers is more urgent than collecting the taxes. It's more urgent because if you fail to collect the taxes, you can just do it tomorrow, but if you fail to protect the people and property, property and confidence is destroyed - forever, and there are no more taxes to collect.
Otherwise agreed on all points.
Given that such a Kafkaesque nightmare is possible, I don't think it's an accident given what I've seen of New York. I think it's weaponized bureaucratic incompetence meant to punish people without needing to actually punish them in a way that you can actually fight against.
New York has been world renowned for corruption for centuries, partially related to its origin as New Amsterdam.
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@sj_zero @cjd @YoungBlood Here appears to be his official claim, and there's lots more details in that topic; NY is said to be really bad about this, or, you know. move out of that Blue hellhole as so many others have:
larossmann Louis Rossmann
Why was the audit so high? What exactly did he do wrong that caused such a big fine?
There are products/services that are sales taxable, and some that are not sales taxable. They wanted to know why some were charged sales tax, and others weren't. After six months of back and forth, they sent me a notice that took 100% of my revenue, said, to paraphrase, here is what you would've paid in sales tax if you collected sales taxed on everything you do, here is what you paid in sales tax: we want the difference between these two numbers, plus half a decade of interest & penalties on top of it.
9 months of back and forth ensued after that, arguing what was, and wasn't sales taxable.
The sad thing is, I don't even know if someone else would get a different result with a different auditor. So much of this falls into a grey area that comes down to the discretion of the auditor from what I hear.
@sj_zero @YoungBlood @cjd One thing that really impressed me about that thread was how much vitriol came from the perception he "defected" (my word) from Team Blue to Team Red.
Only so much, since he moved to Austin which is a very Blue college and state capitol city. He points out one big difference, he doesn't think his tax troubles were personal, just a bureaucracy tuned for maximum revenue since NY is so desperate for money, whereas Texas is not in kill golden geese mode.