So tell my why this doesn't violate the Posse Comitatus Act?
It's so cute all these conservatives and embracing blanket authoritarianism that they'd all be shitting themselves over if it was Biden.
@redwhitebluedude Ah yes, "leftist uprisings".
"A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home," warned James Madison
"What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty," said Elbridge Gerry during the debates over the Bill of Rights.
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@djsumdog @redwhitebluedude You can tell people it's a uniparty. You can tell them it's all corrupt. You can tell them the two parties exist for each to do things the other can't (without resistance).
They will agree with you.
Then the executive will dream up some "emergency" shit to deploy domestic military forces "against leftists" and the "Conservative" seals all clap in unison.
@eriner @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude If the Guard can be taken over by Washington whenever it wants, then the “militia” that the Second Amendment promised the states — and the people — isn’t really there. That undercuts not just state sovereignty, but the deeper principle that the people themselves should have a defense outside of federal control.
https://adamkinzinger.substack.com/p/who-really-controls-the-national
@LostInCalifornia @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude > promised [to] the states
My friend, the States lost all say after 1865.
@eriner @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude Hardly, hun. If you make that argument it would be 1792 or the Whiskey Rebellion, but the confederacy that ended there was barely creaking along.
If you think the federal government is the problem, I'm sure you're outraged about the federal government taking stock in private corporations, and installing hall monitors at news stations?
No? If not, hypocrisy is your brand (and most states's rights argument are just that.)
@eriner @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude BTW: He says "outside of federal control" not "against federal control."
It's not an either/or choice. The states provides flexibility as the "laboratories of democracy" by providing local resources for local needs, including militia for disasters and unrest. The feds cannot respond as effectively as a centralized governmental, but they can assist.
@LostInCalifornia @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude
> it would be 1792 or the Whiskey Rebellion
Sure, but the Civil War (and puppet installment during reconstruction) was the death knell. I mark the beginning of the end at Marbury v Madison (1803), but it was a sure thing by the end of Civil War.
> I'm sure you're outraged about the federal government taking stock in private corporations
I'm against nationalization, yes. https://noauthority.social/@eriner/115075825651102373
> hall monitors at news stations?
What?
@eriner @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude He installed a political officer at CBS to monitor their news as a condition for the recent merger, and is threatening to do the same at ABC and NBC. (Also, as an aside, we know he watches MSNBC).
You have an interesting argument with Marbury. Jefferson thought it should be Congress that makes the decisions, but Jefferson was not involved with writing the constitution other than holding it hostage for a bill of rights. Judicial review is not undemocratic. Hamilton is your guy if you want to understand intent.
The states do have some rights. The Civil War death knell was for the idea that states could ignore human rights the federal government recognized (that's the original purpose of the 14th). Federal law supercedes state law, except where the state law is more liberal. That's a legal concept that has been upheld repeatedly.
They can maintain a militia at the governor's command, and not the president's for their statewide defense (and wildfire or hurricane response is a defense outside of the federal government's control, especially now that he's gutted federal coordination).
OTOH, the federal government is expressly forbidden from using the military for law enforcement. EXPRESSLY forbidden.
"There's a reason we separate military and the police: one fights the enemy of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
-2000s Battlestar Galactic
@LostInCalifornia @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude > He installed a political officer at CBS
Corporate news is indistinguishable from the State.
> The states do have some rights
How's that 10th amendment doing?
> a legal concept that has been upheld repeatedly
Lol. Like I said, 1803. Marbury v Madison.
> the federal government is expressly forbidden from using the military for law enforcement
You don't understand, it's an *emergency*. Kind of like Iraq. Wait, I mean Iran.
@djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Heaven's Gate?
@djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude "Emergency" in context = some brown man just served up a meal in a tortilla, and the dish was described in gasp Spanish.
@djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude the rest is bullshit.
@LostInCalifornia @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Remember LostInCalfornia is a government employee who hates having accountability.
@polarisera @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Remember Polisera has many theories about who I am, and all them full of just as much shit as Trump's average presser.
@LostInCalifornia @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Except you didn't deny that did you?
@polarisera @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Why the FUCK would I?
It's fucking hilarious.
@LostInCalifornia @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Well, you did brag about it, then delete it that one time. I wish I'd known you were going to delete it, I'd have taken a screen shot
Posse Comitatus effectively died with the 2012 version of the NDAA.
Chris Hedges sued and won an injunction. Obama and Panetta appealed, blah blah blah..
It's more than I want to type so I'll just link fag you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedges_v._Obama
The precedent set, of the legal standing of the plantiffs to challenge the law was probably the worst thing to come out of it.
@eriner @djsumdog @redwhitebluedude Dude. the only founder who would approve of your ideas is Aaron Burr. He thought the main reason the country exists is to provide him money and power.
Just like Orange Asshat, and his minions.
@polarisera @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Ah, the mysterious screenshot that only appeared in your head...
You need to take stock of your online life if you think that excuse will fly.
@LostInCalifornia @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Still not denying it. You bragged about your security clearance.
@polarisera @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude Oh, geezus STOP. I need to breathe. That's funny.
@polarisera @djsumdog @eriner @redwhitebluedude I'd never get a security clearance. Not because I've done anything wrong. I just never would.
So, there you go. Either 1. my account was hacked and lots of posts I didn't write were posted, specifically to drive you batty, and then deleted by that same hacker, or 2. you've misread a whole lot of posts or 3. you making it up wholesale.
I'll be generous and say it's likely 2.