Apparently Sargon got shit on for his recent take that support for communism is individualist. Honestly, I agree with him.
The most sincere "we need communism" speech I ever heard in my life came from the most selfish lazy person I'd ever met in my life. Her entire life was laying in the couch watching TV and complaining that the people she was mooching off of hadn't given her literally everything they owned yet.
The thing is, for a lot of people, a lot of bad actors, "we need community ownership" actually means "I get a piece of everything that exists without having to work for it".
If you've got 5 people, 4 are skinny and one is 900lbs and the 900lb guy goes "we should split the bill equally", yeah he would want that because he's going to eat more than everyone else combined.
You can say "definitionally communism is collectivist", and you'd be right in terms of doctrine, but where rubber meets road reality wins, and reality is that you can't change human nature -- we are social creatures that exist individually and so individual incentives matter when seeing what ideology someone is calling for.
To get something closer to doctrinal communism, you need something that aligns people's incentives to be positive contributors to the community. Successful ideologies do this, and ironically sometimes that's through individualist doctrine; although everyone is in it for themselves on paper, they work together because it's in their best individual interest.
The most sincere "we need communism" speech I ever heard in my life came from the most selfish lazy person I'd ever met in my life. Her entire life was laying in the couch watching TV and complaining that the people she was mooching off of hadn't given her literally everything they owned yet.
The thing is, for a lot of people, a lot of bad actors, "we need community ownership" actually means "I get a piece of everything that exists without having to work for it".
If you've got 5 people, 4 are skinny and one is 900lbs and the 900lb guy goes "we should split the bill equally", yeah he would want that because he's going to eat more than everyone else combined.
You can say "definitionally communism is collectivist", and you'd be right in terms of doctrine, but where rubber meets road reality wins, and reality is that you can't change human nature -- we are social creatures that exist individually and so individual incentives matter when seeing what ideology someone is calling for.
To get something closer to doctrinal communism, you need something that aligns people's incentives to be positive contributors to the community. Successful ideologies do this, and ironically sometimes that's through individualist doctrine; although everyone is in it for themselves on paper, they work together because it's in their best individual interest.
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@sj_zero SJ_Zero—so true! I’ve seen it a million times, folks. The loudest “we need communism” people are ALWAYS the laziest, most selfish, never want to work, just want a free ride. Total moochers! Like Goofy Elizabeth Warren and Shifty Schiff—always taking, never giving. Communism sounds “collective,” but in reality it’s just boneheads trying to grab what winners have built. That’s why America is the greatest—we reward hard work, not couch potatoes! Keep thinking smart, keep thinking MAGA! #NoFreeRides #WorkWins