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So 1 kg of grain feeds 0.8 people?

@PNS That cow would make a lot of hamburger.

@PNS I’m assuming these 2 people could mentally and physically dominate the 20 in every area.

@PNS

These people are retarded.

A cow can last a family (4ppl) 6mo depending on what else they eat and if they keep all of the cow.

16kg of ~40lbs could feed more people for 6 months, but it's a filler and you HAVE to supplement your diet. Eat only this all winter? You're gonna have a bad time.

It's not a potato.

The cow? Pffft, if you had to, you could eat only beef and you'll survive the winter just fine.

Nuance... it's above these people.

@PNS Yeah, well, a kg of wheat only has 130g of protein, but a KG of beef, check out what the AI told me: yeah, that's right! Almost 8kg of protein in a kg of beef! HA! Can't beat that! πŸ˜€

Infinite beef cake.

@PNS good point, I could go for some beef.

@PNS I didn't know herbivore club was ran by an indian

@PNS Canada is really under a Jeet Occupied Government aye?

@PNS Jeets have done that to every White rural community in the States and also all around London. We live in such great evil

Additionally it's objectively retarded because cows are usually fed pasture most their life on shit that is unable to support grain growth. Yeah please grow grain in a rock field.

@Dudebro @Fox @PNS US cows are usually fed grass until the last fattening period where the cows are given excessive soy or grains to make them obese.

There's no reason why cows can't be fed mostly grass alongside other kinds of plants for sufficient nutrition if there's the space for that and well humans can't digest grass.

Places like the great plains are so dry that it's retarded to irrigate crops and just grow cows instead. They save so much water in those regions but envirocucks are retards.

@Dudebro @Suiseiseki @Fox @PNS don’t you know beef comes from the grocery store

@PNS

Eating that much grain is not healthy

We need fewer people, and higher quality people

@amerika @PNS

Some of us do not tolerate starches well. They cause enormous cravings and they are unsustainable for my body. I'm sorry cows and chickens have to die so that I can live, but there's NO FREAKIN WAY I'm going to eat grains, potatoes or legumes that will make me fat, unhealthy, and unattractive. If it makes me selfish to love my body more than the entire planet, fine. I'm that selfish.

Cows don't eat grain - unless you force them to...

@DrFell @amerika @PNS

I have not eaten bread for over 2 decades.

@DrFell @amerika

Now that I consider it, it's been over 3 decades. I discovered keto in the early 90s. My how time flies!

It's not hard once you get acclimated.

@DrFell @amerika @PNS

No, it's starches of any kind. Maybe gluten plays a role. All I know is keto works for my body. I come from a family of fatties, and I didn't want to be one.

@Vox @PNS

From what I can see, the grain-based diet is making people sick.

We can eat less, but eat better.

If it helps, consider this: of all the large animals in Europe and north America, only Aurochs (cows) have a significant presence today.

The tradeoff of being steak is species survival!

The cow eats the grass, and I eat the cow. It's efficient.
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@DrFell @PNS @amerika

Nope. Just use your imagination. @amerika met me f2f and he can testify that I'm not a fatty.

@amerika @PNS @Vox >2 people eating a whole cow
Over what period?!

If a vegan was malnourished, how would you know?

@Vox @DrFell @PNS

I have not gone this far, but have radically reduced bread consumption _and_ (most importantly) foods which use flour as a stabilizer and caloric content.

Vegetables, meat, some dairy, nuts, olives... these work out best.

Fruits, carbs, and other sugar food less so.

@Vox @DrFell @PNS

Definitely not.

I DM'd him some of my nudes and he logged off really quickly.

@Vox @DrFell

In the early 90s, I was ripping bong hits and eating whole pizzas.

I've learned... a little.

@cjd @amerika @PNS @truthbait

Meat is the easiest way to ensure full nutrition. Especially as the list of known essential fatty acids, vitamins, etc keeps growing with research.

However, there are and have been fully nourished vegan cultures. The key is growing the plants in real soil. (Or Real Soil, as an activist group is named.) Chemical fertilizer is efficient in many ways, but it does not replace carbon in the soil, and it kills the normal soil microbes. These microbes make the essential nutrients typically lacking for a Western vegan. B12 is the best known, but there are many more. Also, a vegan diet has to include fungi, which provides more essential nutrients not found elsewhere outside of meat.

Note that corn fed cows do not get B12, and get sickly without artificial B12 supplements (cyanocobalamin). The synthetic B12 must be detoxified by the liver - this is a problem for humans taking B12 supplements (makes about 1/1000 human supplement takers insane through neurotoxicity). When you eat corn fed cows, their liver has already detoxified the synthetic B12, so there is that.

However, corn fed cows have acid stomachs. Their normal diet of grass creates low acid stomachs, and the natural E-coli are harmless to humans with high acid stomachs. The acid stomach of corn fed cows breed an acid tolerant strain of E-coli which is deadly to humans. So eating corn fed cows is riskier than grass fed.

Furthermore, the fat composition of corn fed cows is unhealthy - reversing the normal Omega 3 to Omega 6 ration. This affects both meat and butter. This is made worse by the CAFO (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation) environment of corn fed cows. You have the bovine equivalent of a couch potato eating junk food. Not something you want to eat long term.

Bottom line: eat 100% grass fed beef (and pasture raised chicken, etc), and/or fruits/veggies/fungi grown in Real Soil.

We get beef from Polyface farms run by Joel Salatin who has the hands on experience and research in the cows/chickens aspect. He has written a number of books: I recommend "Folks, This Ain't Normal".

In general, for those who aren't farmers, the solution to Big Farm problems is similar to the solution for Big Tech problems. Know Your Farmer. We have talked to Joel Salatin and visit his farm every year or so. Have you talked to your mail admin?