@sickburnbroOf course they don't feel wrong, the experts recommended it, are you an expert? How can experts be wrong? They study and get a tittle, do you think they will appoint anybody than experts to the regulatory agencies? Experts know best!
@MeBigbrain@sickburnbroMoving to the slow poison because there's limits with legalese if you have to pretend you're a free country. Here's head of cattle per year. Apparently, the population in the US collapsed in the 60s or 1/3rd of Americans went vegan and decided milk and burgers were too much of a hassle...
@nobullyplz@MeBigbrain@sickburnbro actually thatās about the time the cheese caves became public and Reagan started cracking down on the insane policy of buying all of the unused dairy in the country without question and turning it into a strategic cheese stockpile.
@sapphire@MeBigbrain@sickburnbroMakes sense...but I haven't seen a strategic cheese cave and I demand a tour cuz it sounds like a cool trip. We can do Fort Knox second then
All those Got Milk ads were to prevent catastrophe when the government stopped BUYING ALL THE UNUSED MILK IN THE COUNTRY WITHOUT QUESTION AND TURNING IT INTO CHEESE
Reagan also gave the cheese away to niggers, the literal government cheese. His original plan was to throw it in the ocean
@sickburnbro@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz Direct distribution of dairy products began in 1982 under the Temporary Emergency Food Assistance Program of the Food and Nutrition Service.
@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@sickburnbro the government cheese thing always tickles me because 1. Itās another thing FDR is directly responsible for and 2. It was such a colossal fuck up and a waste of money
TLDR in WWII the government bought a metric shitload of milk to process and send overseas and after the war the dairy market was predicted to collapse since you canāt just close a cow due to lack of demand, and the governments solution was to just⦠buy ALL the milk, which made dairy farmers push production as hard as their means would allow which led to billions of gallons of milk going to the government who turned it all into cheese and butter
@sickburnbro@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@sapphire "An erroneous article by Modern Farmer began circulating on social media in 2022 implying all of the USDA's 1.5 billion pounds of cheese was stored in caves near Springfield, Missouri." Wikipedia's lying again boys, lets head to springfield and liberate the government cheese.
@Rocket@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@sickburnbro one of my favorite quotes on this topic comes from Fat Electrician talking about Reaganās original plan to just dump it in the ocean: āyou took all our taxes and turned them into cheese, weād at least like some of the cheeseā
@sapphire@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@sickburnbro@Rocketapparently the govt cheese was actually pretty good quality. properly aged and preserved cheese would be good. that being said it's on a constant rotation of shipping off old stock and intaking new.
@Heil_Honkler@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@sickburnbro@Rocket according to who? It was processed, usually moldy cheddar-based American cheese food product and the overwhelming consensus was that it was only good for making slop
@sapphire@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@sickburnbro@Rocketwell at least learn how cheese is produced and what makes a good cheese. tl;dr the more curd used the better, and the govt cheese was almost all curd.
@sickburnbro@Heil_Honkler@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@Rocket only niggers and poors ate it and Iām sure their experience was colored more by how well their mom cooked than the quality of the cheese. Iād suspect that someone whose username references Hitler only talked to whites which would color (haha get it) their anecdotes
This is the same Ronald Reagan who tried to abolish food stamps, so I think itās a pretty educated guess to say if he was trying to give it away that it was close to or beyond its expiration in some way.
@Heil_Honkler@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@sickburnbro@Rocket if youāre confused I suggest you step away from the computer and calm down a bit, then come back and reread the conversation if you still feel the need to defend 40 year old cheese :)
@sickburnbro@Heil_Honkler@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@Rocket On December 22, 1981, Reagan signed and authorized into law the finalized version of the Agriculture and Food Act of 1981, which called for five hundred and sixty million pounds (250,000 metric tons) of cheese stockpiled by the Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) to be released, saying that it would "be distributed free to the needy by nonprofit organizations." Ronald Reagan, in his official statement about the distribution of the Cheese Inventory of the Commodity Credit Corporation, said,
"The 1981 farm bill I signed today will slow the rise in price support levels, but even under this bill, surpluses will continue to pile up. A total of more than 560 million pounds [250,000 t] of cheese has already been consigned to warehouses, so more distributions may be necessary as we continue our drive to root out waste in government and make the best possible use of our nation's resources."
The USDA as part of the program that included food stamps also handed out "commodity foods" like beans and cheese, the latter was part of a diary farmer price program started by FDR in the early 1930s.
In the early 1970s I ate some both that a fried of the family shared with us, it was perfectly fine. Dried beans are dried beans, the cheese was not American process, that would be a lot more expensive since it starts with real cheese then adds stuff to make it good for cooking, plus a spice for color and its characteristic flavor. Very solid/hard cheddar like. but less flavor.
BTW, FDR deliberately starved the people, per his USDA a quarter of the population, was confirmed by the WWII draft, and I could hear the psychological scars it left in my early Silent Generation parents. After WWII rationing/FDR's death our ruling trash got serious about trying to make sure everyone was well enough fed. Although again, Michelle Obama used the school lunch to again starve children.
And there was a hell of a lot of extra crazy economic stuff in the 1970s that Reagan inherited, I could well see Jimmy Carter doing what was claimed and there being a huge pile of the stuff they just started handing out. Albeit the reluctance would be from the danger of trash everyone who supplied the regular cheese we bought.
That's part of how the West keeps a lot of the Third World starving, dumping "free" food on them after convincing their own governments to be the only buyer of their own, a World Bank program initiated by the same guy who helped ruin our effort to fight the Vietnam War, Robert McNamara.
Just gonna step in here and say sub percentage of an emulsifier is not expensive, even on industrial scales. Iād even argue that the largest expense of turning cheddar into American cheese is the fact that youāve got to melt it, not any of the additives.
@sickburnbroI would say "out the ass" makes it a fart.
I also just read the article in the OP. As with pretty much anything it ends with a "more research needed to find out what is going on", since it seemingly only affects some ranches and not others. Initial statistical data is expected to give a preliminary conclusion Q1 of 2026.
@sickburnbro@nobullyplz@MeBigbrainThey also started drafting and enacting a number of international trade bills and policies in the 70s and 80s that incentivized switching away from domestic cattle and livestock and importing more meat and dairy. The same thing happened in Australia.
Not to mention NAFTA and a bunch of Clinton era foreign policy fucking up the entire western worlds economy.
@MeBigbrain@ThatWouldBeTelling@nobullyplz@sickburnbro I've learned too much about cheese in the last 20 minutes American cheese has to be all milk but not all cheese (except for the emulsifier and flavor) either 95% with no additives to be considered cheese, 51% to be considered "cheese food" and if its less than that or has other non-standard ingredients it can't be called cheese or cheese food. Government cheese was processed (so it did have the emulsifiers to make it "American cheese") but it wasn't adulterated to any great extent
@lord_nougat@jb@sickburnbroWait 20-30 years and they'll be feeding Bovaer to human beings and blaming their eventual deaths on system racism or climate change.
It's because the globalist jews want to remove all of our proper nutrition and replace it with jail slop that keeps people weak and sickly and always hungry so that they constantly have to eat which means constantly spending more money than necessary š if you ate beef every day as your protein you wouldn't need to snack excessively throughout the day for energy boosts and to stop embarrassing stomach growling during job interviews in rooms so quiet and unnerving you could hear a mouse fart
@RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare@sickburnbroWhen people's basic survival needs are fully met, people start thinking about things other than basic survival. Things like "why are we letting niggers molest our children?" and "why aren't we doing something about the all of the problems the Jews cause?".
@PalePimp@sickburnbro@Jens_Rasmussen Except this is Phase IV "post-marketing" (if it were a human drug, don't know about vet approval processes) and is for example where you find "one in a million" or the like adverse side effects. Ones with a rate too small for the previous biggest phase of trials, like Janssen's adenovirus vector COVID vaccine.
Here I'm thinking there may be a lot more variability in cow gut biomes, the "different ranches" may mean different enough species of forage, and/or more variability in cow genetics than realized when the testing was designed.
That said, this is an axiomatically violent intervention like statins, which are six steps from the final production of cholesterol. Something that should have been tried in larger and larger populations vs. being mandated for a whole country at once.
Fucking around with gut biomes can be a major intervention, they're jungles of many competing bacteria, and ruminants' are extra extra complicated. Also tend to produce important nutrients, like we humans get enough Vitamin K from our bacteria friends. Higher level stuff may also be involved, "protozoa, fungi, and yeast," for good or bad. The former are key for termites, providing surface hosts for symbiotic bacteria.
AKA this is a well studied but horribly complicated system they're fucking with as their ruling trash implement the Morgenthau Plan 2.0 .
@sapphire@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz@ThatWouldBeTellingI mean I'm sure if you have enough fuel and can ram enough air in there you can do it. Not sure that would be a good idea on something you can't operate entirely at a distance like a traditional pizza over style, but could be fun.
As far as loading and unloading pizza I've got a big paddle and its just a weber grill with a pellet handler attached, handle doesn't get hot even in the gigaheat mode (I've done this a few times already)
@sickburnbro@MeBigbrain@ThatWouldBeTelling@nobullyplz I don't think recteq sells the whole front load slot attachment for this one like Kamado Joe does for their egg but they do advertise it for pizzas and sell a stone made to fit the grill
second, is number of cows for beef going down in relationship to black people discovering and eating more fried chicken? looks like about when such a thing would have really started getting popular.
@soapone@sickburnbro@sapphire@MeBigbrain@nobullyplz The numbers (doing very rough order of magnitude math in my head) don't work for negroes in the US moving the needle that much for beef -> chicken consumption, they're only ~13% of the population.
First time I heard of people saying cheddar cheese has no flavor, although you can certainly buy stuff labeled as such with little flavor in the store.
And, I mean, I grew up in the South, And was completely mystified that fried chicken was considered to be a negro thing (from Birth of a Nation?) and still am about watermelon. Because everyone down here loves both, it's not a racial thing at all!