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Trump is stuck with Epstein forever. There will be always be a belief that more stuff is hidden, and you can't prove a negative. No way out.

@lauren I think you'll be disappointed as to how nobody cares about Trump but Bill Clinton is pretty much ruined. As long as their only girls and aren't little boys and they're older than 13, people won't care. Not enough to tar and feather him.

@chris Bill matters not now. It's all Trump all the time. I will not be disappointed.

@lauren
Well don't forget that every single moment of every single day since 2015 every single thing has been about him wanting to screw his daughter wanting to screw this and that and don't forget that Biden had sex with or inappropriately touched his daughter Ashley and that didn't seem to stick so I don't know if anything will stick. Taking showers and emotionally destroying his daughter Ashley didn't touch him at all.

@lauren
I'm perfectly happy with everybody going down cuz I don't think anybody in politics is not worth completely taking down vis-a-vis the movie V. Or was it V for vendetta. Pynchon wrote V.

@lauren
I wouldn't be surprised if Donald Trump gets away with everything and doesn't get hit for anything but everyone around him does. Ironically, the Epstein files don't include zero to 13-year-old girls or boys at all. Abused and sexually abused minors who are boys or younger than 12 or 13 aren't even on the table here. I mean everything in the Epstein world seem to have been done with what people my agent older called jailbait. It's a tough sell.

I always think back to the mid-2000s when it turned out that the United States was pursuing an official policy of torture.

At that time, rather than accept that torture is evil and not something that liberal democracy should be doing, they just double down. "Yeah we tortured people, and it was the right thing to do and we would do it again."

Shockingly, it worked. Nobody really seems to care anymore that the government tortures people or violates Fourth amendment rates en masse, or does any of the things that they do. Things like MK Ultra turn out to be true and responsible for radicalizing homegrown US terrorists like the Unabomber, and that doesn't seem even worth the discussion.

I feel like if anyone was really in danger we'd be seeing that taking place, a huge campaign to minimize the damage that occurred and effectively turn it into background noise. It's all just political games at this point. Nobody thinks they're really in danger on either side of the political spectrum, they're just hoping to score some points before the ride stops.
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@sj_zero @lauren
You might be talking directly about this I should have checked before I started writing but I believe that CECOT or whatever it's called won't go anywhere because people think that people who act really badly deserve to be slapped around because existential threat and maybe a giant bomb and the TV show 24. Did you read this I shared this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/chrisabraham/s/E1NeNtW1m2

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