Cc: @dushman @mauve @alex @Suiseiseki I can't think of who to tag really. We all like free software here.
https://www.boringcactus.com/2020/08/13/post-open-source.html
>but those freedoms don't actually mean shit to the average end user. only programmers care if they have access to the source code, and most people aren't programmers.
I agree. But the solution is not to reject freedom for programmers. The solution is to embrace freedom for the end user *as well*.
On forums and social media, digital signatures and hashes that make sure posts can't be surreptitiously edited or deleted. Browser extensions and/or clients that periodically check threads using different IPs to detect shadowbanning automatically. Or decentralised forums where such things are impossible from the start.
In general, not needing to make an account for things unless absolutely necessary.
This sort of software is what I would really call "free as in speech".
What have I missed?
>but those freedoms don't actually mean shit to the average end user. only programmers care if they have access to the source code, and most people aren't programmers.
I agree. But the solution is not to reject freedom for programmers. The solution is to embrace freedom for the end user *as well*.
On forums and social media, digital signatures and hashes that make sure posts can't be surreptitiously edited or deleted. Browser extensions and/or clients that periodically check threads using different IPs to detect shadowbanning automatically. Or decentralised forums where such things are impossible from the start.
In general, not needing to make an account for things unless absolutely necessary.
This sort of software is what I would really call "free as in speech".
What have I missed?
Cc: @lain
I hate how people call things freedom just because they can put "the freedom to" in front of it. People will just put "the freedom to" in front of anything and call it a freedom.
@AHV6G6NRb9VECOlFoW.mxtthxw@mxtthxw.art @pre There isn't really much we can do about property being taken by force in the first place though, is there. Do you want to restart the formation of the earth? Lol.
I keep fantasizing about people I know in real life turning out to be fedi users I've interacted with.
@AHV6G6NRb9VECOlFoW.mxtthxw@mxtthxw.art @pre That's the common view of libertarianism.
My view is that it's about balancing everyone's freedom, so that one person's freedom doesn't interfere with another person's.
My view is that it's about balancing everyone's freedom, so that one person's freedom doesn't interfere with another person's.
@AHV6G6NRb9VECOlFoW.mxtthxw@mxtthxw.art @pre A libertarian isn't just "someone who does what they want". It's "someone who thinks everyone should be able to do what they want (within reason)".
@Suiseiseki @gabriel I don't understand why you would say "it depends" otherwise
@niko4u @GrapheneOS @jak2k I guess it helps in the case of attacks on the servers, but not in the case of attacks on the maintainer's personal machine.
@epilepticrabbit cc: @strypey this might be something like what you want?
@GrapheneOS @jak2k Is that worse than Google Play, which forces* developers to give up their private keys to Google?
The GOS community seems to think so but I've never understood why.
*Or at least, they were planning on doing that a while ago. Have they gone ahead with it?
The GOS community seems to think so but I've never understood why.
*Or at least, they were planning on doing that a while ago. Have they gone ahead with it?
@niko4u @jak2k @GrapheneOS How much extra security does that add though? Seems to me to be very little since you're still trusting the maintainers whose keys are embedded in the app.
@Suiseiseki @gabriel So when is it not in the head?
shitpost
@cy
>ventilation system
So that's what people mean by all those "in ur walls" jokes. I don't think I've ever lived in a house with a ventilation system. Must be why I didn't get it.
>ventilation system
So that's what people mean by all those "in ur walls" jokes. I don't think I've ever lived in a house with a ventilation system. Must be why I didn't get it.