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Advocate for freedom and tolerance even if you say things I do not like

Adversary of Fediblock

Accept that I'll probably say something you don't like and I'll give you the same benefit, and maybe we can find some truth about the world.

Ah... Is the Alliteration clever or stupid? Don't answer that, I sort of know the answer already...

I'm with you, internet archive is a great resource (a resource I've personally donated money to because they do great work), but they're gonna get their shit packed in, and it's their own fault.

The problem is that they're the biggest piracy site on planet earth. You can get most movies, many books (not through their library programs), you can download packs containing every single game for virtually every game console they had ever existed, and so much more. If you had a magical memory stick that contained the entirety of the internet archive, you could have a full and happy life filled with new media every single day, because there's that much stuff on there. It's bigger than megaupload in it's heydey.

They should have kept to their core mission, acting as a legal online library and internet archive, perhaps host archives of confirmed public domain files. Instead they've really threatened their mission by playing fast and loose with the rules to the extent that their end is inevitable now, and it'll be a massive loss for the whole internet.

I find it odd that in some ways we live in the least symbolic era of all time, where people will pick apart organized religion or fairy tales as if they're scientific fact told with the full intent of expressing the results of a lab test, but in other ways we live in the most symbolic era of all time where everyone chooses their words so carefully because everyone is expected to look at words and actions through more lenses than an optometrist.

It was actually a postmodern instinct I had to shut off because it's a poisonous way of looking at your own life. I mean, try to be a good parent or a good husband or a good brother, and the postmodern mind starts setting off alarm bells that through a literary lens you may be setting yourself up to be killed off-screen or something.

Human beings have always had an instinct for metaphor, but I think the inauthentic deconstruction and critical lensing of the current day is a unique artefact of pop-postmodernism. In that sense, the millennial generation craves authenticity but they've been trained by their media from birth to tear down anything authentic and replace it with 15 layer deep false symbolism.

"Pay you to lay there like a dead fish? Forget this!
I'll present you with a new deal like a leftist
Show you my hourly rates in a net twist
Me taking charge it's got you feeling wettest!
Bitch!"

And this is why I never became a rapper.

"Why do you assume that just because I'm asian I know karate?"

lol ironic

Smart to go on strike right before the election. Isn't like they're going to shut down the strike right before they ask for the union votes.

But that would be pretty funny too.

The Thief and the Cobbler is one, it was massively expensive and destroyed the studio, but it was the animator's magnum opus he worked on for 30 years.

Showgirls was one of the movies Paul Verhoven pushed for as a personal project, and it literally destroyed the careers of some of the people who were part of the project (and gave many of us a chance to see tits on basic cable at 15, so your sacrifice will not be forgotten)

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was a first of its kind, a photorealistic movie, but the cost and the fact that the movie just wasn't very good basically destroyed the studio after one picture.

Disney's Treasure Planet was intended to be the magnum opus of its creators, but ended up being a nail in the coffin of disney animated movies.

Cameron's Avatar is an example in the other direction, where it was this weird movie about blue aliens he really wanted to make that ended up making all of the money. His movie Titanic is another weird one, where you have a 3 and a half hour historical romance that became the top movie on earth.

Christopher Nolan's Inception was also mind bendingly popular, and one of the films he used his clout to create.

I also heard about a movie from 1980 called Heaven's Gate which destroyed the director, the studio, and essentially ended the era of director-led movies because studios were too gun-shy after that bomb to let that happen again.

So as you can see, these sort of risky auteur films can either be the biggest flops or the biggest home runs, it really depends on the film and the world around it in that moment.

Keep in mind as you read that I'm not a Trump voter, and Gabriel isn't a Trump voter. We're both Canadians. We've got our own political system to worry about. My analysis is from a third party observer, not a participant.

What I'm seeing is that you seem frustrated that your mental model isn't matching the behavior you'd expect, and you think the only explanation is that it's a cult. Maybe there's some global cult where people all around the world are praising one asshole American, but I think your models might be fairly low resolution, and you assume people are stupid, when the reality is with a higher resolution model you'd come to understand that people's views are more nuanced.

In the Republican primaries the main contenders would be DeSantis and Hayley, both of whom were neolib/neocons so go ahead and vote for them if you want but that's not what the new right is about -- Neolibs and neocons are typically part of an establishment the new right calls "the uniparty", not friendly. DeSantis had some decent policies in Florida, but it seems like he sort of slipped into them by accident rather than by any magical wit, since on culture war stuff he overplayed his hand(such as taking the big win of going "no talking about sex to kindergarteners" and starting to turn it into exactly what his progressive enemies accused him of doing in the first place), and in the primaries he made some big mistakes (he handled the Trump conviction really poorly which hit him hard) suggesting he was just another establishment candidate. Vivek was a great candidate and I liked him but it was literally his first time in the political arena. I think he'll be a heavy hitter in the coming years as long as he doesn't screw anything up (and that's the key here, he needs to build trust with people because we've all had candidates come in and say the right things but no matter how beautiful the words Obama didn't close down gitmo and he didn't pull out of Afghanistan), but given that he still needs to build that trust I can understand why between the two people would choose Trump, even with the latter's mistakes.

And it's easy to say from a keyboard "oh, he's obviously too stupid to realize what happened", but reality is that the political machine is incredibly clever when it comes to lying baldfacedly to get you to support the thing they want to do. If I remember right, you yourself have railed against neoliberalism, but what is postmodern neoliberalism but a lie -- they claim they're shrinking the size of government while making it grow but taking social programs away from the people and selling the public goods to the highest bidder. Many entire political establishments around the world fall for the Machiavellian machinations of the establishment machine, I don't think there's a huge cognitive dissonance in assuming sometimes an imperfect political neophyte will fall for their tricks now and again.

It isn't like we can see anyone who's done any better, and it's obvious to Trump voters that he has at least part of the machine scared as hell given that they're putting everything they have into corrupt lawfare against him. And as I mentioned before, Trump voters who are the most concerned about the covid vaccines *do* routinely criticize him for what he did with the vaccines, which is again not in line with an infallible cult of personality. They see this as a tactical error on his part, and one of many -- many people who want to see a second Trump term will tell you straight-up that the first Trump presidency was really lacking in a lot of ways, he didn't succeed at a lot of the things he tried to do. The thing he has going for him is the fact that he appears to be the only one doing the things he's doing, which gives him a competitive advantage.

If we're gonna start talking untruths, perhaps we should.

You believe that a riot that happened after Trump said "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard" was caused by him, and he is responsible for that riot despite immediately telling his supporters "go home". By contrast, the other candidate in this election said after 6 months of violent riots that caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage, killed dozens of people, and forced the president of the United States to hide in a bunker during a particularly violent night, "they're not gonna stop[...] And they should not" so do you hold them to the same standard?

Do you also believe the Russia Russia Russia hoax, confirmed misinformation generated by the Hillary Clinton campaign for which her campaign was charged a large fine?

Do you believe in the "very fine people" fraud which snopes has confirmed false?

Do you actually know what Trump was convicted of? No, not what you think he was convicted of, what he was actually convicted of. It was mislabeling a line item on an accounting document. He mislabeled a line item. So they convicted him of a felony. Because he was also running for president at the time. It wasn't even a felony if you weren't running for president. And that's not an accusation or a conspiracy theory, that's the legal theory officially presented in the case by the New York prosecutor. Mislabeling a line item is a misdemeanor when most people did it, it's a felony because Donald Trump did it while running for office. That's weird, isn't it? Most people don't realize that he mislabeled a line item on an accounting document, they think it was something far more salacious because it was presented as such. Hey, quick question: Are you sure every single line item on every accounting document you ever had created is correct? Are you sure?

Do you believe trump has refused to denounce neo Nazis and white supremacists, which he did explicitly in the very same video that debunks the "very fine people" fraud?

Even if you knew all of these things now, do you think that perhaps your view of someone might be skewed when certain elements of the media are 93% negative on Trump and 100% positive for Harris, as one Newsbusters analysis of ABC found? That's a lot of negativity and positivity to independently think through. There was a young lady from North Korea who came to the west, and she was shocked when she got out. She and everyone in NK "knew" the news was wrong and figured the most egregious stuff said about Kim Jong Un was wrong, but it wasn't until she left that she realized just how much of the news was totally false, particularly about the west.

Trump is doing better than any Republican presidential candidate in 50 years with black voters, cutting the previously expected 50 point lead held by democrats in half with Kamala Harris. He's doing very well with latino voters. He's doing better than any candidate since Reagan with union voters. Are all these people cultists who only like Trump because he's the head of a cult of personality? Maybe, but I think you'd do well to tread lightly and consider maybe these people just have a different viewpoint that you're not considering.

Finally, have you seen the "sharp as a tack" video about Joe Biden? It's showing all the TV commentators talking about how fit he was to run for president this election, every one saying he's "sharp as a tack", or "better than he's ever been". Gentle reminder that Joe Biden is not the candidate for president because it turns out he's a doddering old man and he was forced out in a palace coup after winning the democrat primaries. See? That's what a cult looks like. Or the least popular vice president ever being hailed as not just the great hope for the party, but the living personification of joy. Now that's pretty fuckin culty. I'm not making a "whataboutism" argument here, I'm contrasting what the supposed cult of Donald Trump looks like compared to something I think looks a lot more like a cult.

While looking at an actual cult, note that coalitions with internal disagreements are inherently different from cults where a single, unquestionable authority is held in reverence. unquestionable statements like "Joe Biden is sharp as a tack" kept getting repeated and like scientologists if you dared question the cult you would be destroyed as a person, crushed. And make no mistake, the cult is going to switch to new targets once it's done with Trump. I mean, just look at the mayor of NYC. Do you think he's getting charged because he did something wrong, or is he getting charged for making Biden look bad when a bunch of illegal migrants showed up in NYC?

Anyway, I'm not expecting to change your mind here, but maybe you might get a slightly higher resolution view of why people support who they do. Considering there's a good chance Trump wins the next election, understanding why anyone would vote for him, let alone about half the country that votes, is probably not a bad exercise whether you want to like him or not. The one good thing for everyone is that 4 years from now, he'll be done in office anyway.

And no, he's not going to seize control of the government, because his coalition would crucify him if he did, because it's not a cult. If you'd like evidence that his coalition won't allow it, just look to January 6th itself, which even if you took it at its least charitable and it was 100% a coup, nobody stood behind that. The Republicans liked it the least of all, and even many Republican voters were outspoken in their disdain for what had happened.

It might not be a peer-reviewed study, but it can be convincing enough evidence. What's interesting is that my brother helped disprove a lot of ideas that I had about what might make someone successful or at least happy in life.

From very early on he was a very successful hedonist, but a lot of people that live that lifestyle end up miserable...

I ask you to consider the idea that the reason that you don't understand Trump when looking at him through the lens of a cult is that it's not a cult.

You're not going to find that many Trump supporters who don't disagree with him on something. A lot of Christian conservatives don't like his stance on abortion and think it's too permissive. A lot of libertarian conservatives dislike a lot of what he did and didn't do -- a lot of people think that he should have pardoned Assange and Snowden which was totally in his power. A lot of fiscal conservatives don't like just how much money he spends. A lot of people deeply criticized him for hiring John Bolton as well as many of his other appointments. Many of his supporters are disaffected liberals who think the Democrats are acting authoritarian. A lot of people don't like how he talks online. A lot of people criticizing how he's running this campaign. Some people even think that his decisions during covid including project warpspeed were bad. They don't directly blame him for the vaccines being dangerous, but he let them get their Trojan horse into the city. I see it on my feed all the time, people on the right reminding other conservatives about that fact as a warning not to get complacent and not to put Trump onto a pedestal of infallibility.

The guy has built a coalition of a bunch of different disparate groups, and none of them think that he is a perfect person or a perfect candidate. It's a misconception that you only support a politician when you pretend you would marry them, but that isn't something among his supporters. That's something that the left does. They say that you need to fall in love with a Democrat. People fell in love with obama, they fell in love with kennedy, they fell in love with clinton, but you don't need to fall in love with Trump to support him. All you need to think is that he's going to steer things in generally the right direction and he's going to do his best.

It's possible to think project warpspeed let a Trojan horse in the gates and it was a bad call but still think he's the better bet for running the country. When cults see their all powerful leader make mistakes it causes anguish and cognitive dissonance, but if you think the guy you support is a human and he makes a mistake frankly anyone could have made and their opposition is destroying cities for 6 months at a time, forcing people to take experimental drugs or lose their livelihoods, taking pot shots at political candidates, denying people food to homeless people based on race or other overtly evil things, it puts mistakes in context.

A lot of his current allies are people who previously spoke out against him, including his current vice presidential candidate. There are people who used to support him who now speak out against him. That isn't the actions of a cult of people, it's the actions of a fragile alliance built from political horse trading.

Given the reality of the situation before you, I would ask you to consider where all of your narratives come from. Are you the one who thought that Trump's following was a cult, or did someone tell you that, and you picked it up, but you're finding it kind of frustrating the fact that it doesn't really seem to fit the facts?

I think for someone like that, it isn't about the money, it's about making your artistic vision happen, using the clout you built elsewhere to push through a project that was never financially viable but it's your dream as a filmmaker.

Sometimes those stories end up becoming some of the biggest movies of all time, but often they just end up being a big waste of money except for the guy who gots to make his dream movie.

Furthering the metaphor, I bet there is a sort of ideological immune system that will eventually tap the brakes most of the time, but for something that doesn't have that immune system by design and just keep on getting eaten up.

To be honest, you're not entirely wrong. Lol

It's been enjoyable for me to watch but I get it lol

https://youtu.be/I5g_7AtUzQg

These two have some interesting things to say, and this episode is about the "pod people" effect of wokeness.

Given what happens every time, inauthentic people injecting themselves into hobbies so they can eat them from inside, you can see the pod people actions, and also why we might have an instinct against such people -- like a brachnoid wasp, they lay their eggs inside your favorite properties, and when they think they can get away with it those eggs hatch and they start to devour those properties from the inside out.

You can see from there why normalish people get the heebie jeebies from such people, because you can sense their inauthenticity. "As a little girl I always loved Warhammer 40k!" No you didn't.

But here's a further take: thinking about it this way, I'm not sure progressive ideology is itself inherently pod peopleish or even inherently woke the way we think about it. I kind of think that default liberal ideology was super powerful (a famous study around 2007 showed 75% of millennials agreed with it), and so the pod people were drawn to it. It looks like the cause of the disease, but it's just the current carrier, like a zombie beetle carrying around wasp larvae. I'm not even sure it's "patient zero", I think those pod people ate up organized religion before they caused it to collapse, and now they're eating stuff like opposing racism and the like, but they'll jump to a new host once this one is dead (and make no mistake, it's dying). The pod people also force others to conform or be expelled, so that explains why some people who used to be cool seem to have stopped and started acting like pod people full-time.

I can't predict what the next host will be, but it'll be something super popular. It may even be "anti-wokeness" seeing how badly progressive ideology has been destroyed, where they'll inject themselves into it, take power for themselves, make it totally insufferable with pod people, and people will start to hate this thing too. I can imagine something wholesome like anti-pedophilia being taken over, because then you get the power to accuse individuals of horrific crimes due to your movement, and they'll even eat that host so badly people just won't care anymore.

Maybe she should talk to them like they're below average 4 year olds some more?

Literally the stupidest people in the room at all times.

"Trump got to select 2 supreme Court justices. You should dissolve the supreme Court so if he wins trump can select all the supreme Court justices"

It isn't egalitarian to say that some people are better morally than others and will choose to do better things than others. It's inherently hierarchal, with a hierarchy of morality.

My brother is a good example, where he's smarter than me genetically, and better off physically, but he morally failed to make good choices and so despite having similar and in fact better biology, and similar culture having been raised in the same household, he's far worse off in life than me.

The nexus of nature, nurture, and choice is what's important, and you can't nurture your way out of nature and choice problems, and you can't choose your way out of nature and nurture problems, but to be someone who deserves to be king, one needs the nexus to meet at the pinnacle of all three. It doesn't mean the lesser people are bad people, nor does it mean they don't deserve a good life, but they shouldn't be king, and if you put them there then you're doing everyone wrong including the falsely elevated.

Nature, nurture, and free will all contribute to our behavior.

You can't teach a dog to recite Shakespeare, it doesn't have a mouth to speak.

Someone who has never learned Shakespeare will never recite Shakespeare, they don't have the knowledge to do so.

And someone with the biological means and the cultural upbringing may still choose to never recite Shakespeare because it is our choice whether to do so or not, and two similar people may make different decisions.

Without understanding this, people will fail to act appropriately because they might try to culture those who lack the faculties to have culture, or they might fail to impart culture, or they might assume you can treat men like a piano key and they will always play the same note.

The same reason people get fat -- outside of a civilization like ours where food is so plentiful everyone is fat, often people are on the verge of starvation so you don't have a need to be a musclebound monster, you need to be just as built as you need to be for the circumstances.

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