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Looking at history through razzorfist's lens, it becomes immediately apparent why John Wilkes Booth screamed "sic semper tyrannis".

But in some ways it's a white pill. America survived Lincoln. It may have been changed forever, but it didn't remain as authoritarian as it was. There is a path to walking back from the ledge. With luck, maybe the America and the rest of the world still has a chance to walk back from the ledge.

What's your view of what civilization collapse would look like in the postmodern age?

What do you mean by nova? The sun isn't the sort to nova, it looks more like it'll become a red giant, so I'm assuming it's a cultural event?

Huh, go figure. Watched the whole documentary, guess we'll just have to deal with it if a sort of 12000 year cataclysm happens.

I'm sure a Carrington sized flare would cause a lot of damage, but it wouldn't get rid of all electricity for the rest of our lives. A lot of stuff could break really badly, but in particular systems that don't rely on long distance transmission could be back up and running as soon as the event ended, as well as systems that were brought offline in expectation of the arrival of an event.

It's likely that the 1921 solar storm was similar in strength to the 1859 Carrington event according to recent research, and at that time we already had radio systems and electricity was used for lighting in some regions. The one saving grace for the world's technology in 1921 was we didn't rely on long distance electrical transmission lines. The risk of ground current would be different from place to place. If you're in the east or the upper midwest, then there's a very high risk, but down in Florida it's a much lower risk, mostly due to the geology of the different places.

The 1989 event that knocked out the power in Quebec seemed to be largely affecting power regulation that relied on ground for voltage references, and that damaged static var systems that regulate voltages by injecting inductive vars onto the electrical system. After that event they took mitigating measures, but I've heard that before and then the same exact problem occurs again so the proof would be in the pudding...

1921 wasn't pre-electrical, though.
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According to contemporary measurements it was as large as or potentially larger than the carrington event. Telegraph lines did in fact get damaged in the later event, which is why it was called the railroad storm. Despite that, it didn't have any effect on the electric lighting systems installed in the same regions.

It'll be highly dependent on the region. How they get their power, the geology of the region, and how much mitigating technology is in place.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-studies-warn-of-cataclysmic-solar-superstorms/

Here's an article about the study. I watched an extended video from the author on youtube, and the methodology makes sense.

I mean, the Carrington event caused operators to get shocked, the 1921 event caused telegraph stations to burn to the ground. Is that a lower level of effects?

Imagine planning a reconfiguration of the world order for decades and generations, only to have a solar flair collapse your patiently cultivated panopticon

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