Honestly, is anyone even mad at establishment bullshit being satanic anymore? At this point it's just documenting the fall of a civilization more than anything. You can't even be mad any more than you can be mad at your dog for licking its balls and trying to lick your face. You're not really mad, you just want to make sure you don't get dog ball slobber all over your face.
The concept that there's a lot of different sorts of demonic types out there is something I've just barely started to touch on -- satanic, Luciferian, Molochian, it's all comprehensible but I'm not at a point where I fully understand it yet and I think that's partly our postmodern culture that doesn't want any of us reflecting on the type of sins we cast and their consequences.
If you've ever read Satanic writing you'd know the assholes in government are far from Satanists
As I recall, luciferian evil is more like thinking you're outsmarting God, it's cunning evil, an arrogant hubris that you're smarter than God. Satanic evil tends to be more stupid and base, carnal desire or animalistic hatred and anger, in a sense giving up your rational humanity to submit to those parts of your animalistic nature you know are evil. I assume Molochian evil would be related to false idolatry and sacrificing innocence to something evil.
I'm framing this in terms of christianity, but I think most organized religions have a concept of the good and the bad, and overall while there are certainly details that are different from culture to culture, there's a limited number of ways to succeed as human beings, and so from a purely cultural evolutionary perspective ideologies that continue to exist past a few generations must have a certain view of ways to behave and ways not to behave.
As a counterexample that isn't really a counterexample, the akkadians were famously vicious, participating in horrendous practices such as having The Losers of a war have to grind the bones of his wife and child and then bragging about it in Statue form. Now this might look like it proves that such ideologies can survive, but eventually the entire Mesopotamian region banded together just to fight back against them, ultimately resulting in the collapse of their empire.
Another counterexample that isn't really a counterexample, is the Mayan civilization that was discovered in the Americas by the Spanish. Because of their practice of human sacrifice, not only did the Christians coming over from Europe feel morally obligated to wipe them out, but once the Europeans had come over and put their finger on that scale they were quite quickly able to make a coalition of all of their enemies and wiped out the entire civilization in record time.
I'm framing this in terms of christianity, but I think most organized religions have a concept of the good and the bad, and overall while there are certainly details that are different from culture to culture, there's a limited number of ways to succeed as human beings, and so from a purely cultural evolutionary perspective ideologies that continue to exist past a few generations must have a certain view of ways to behave and ways not to behave.
As a counterexample that isn't really a counterexample, the akkadians were famously vicious, participating in horrendous practices such as having The Losers of a war have to grind the bones of his wife and child and then bragging about it in Statue form. Now this might look like it proves that such ideologies can survive, but eventually the entire Mesopotamian region banded together just to fight back against them, ultimately resulting in the collapse of their empire.
Another counterexample that isn't really a counterexample, is the Mayan civilization that was discovered in the Americas by the Spanish. Because of their practice of human sacrifice, not only did the Christians coming over from Europe feel morally obligated to wipe them out, but once the Europeans had come over and put their finger on that scale they were quite quickly able to make a coalition of all of their enemies and wiped out the entire civilization in record time.
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I believe this 100%. Heard, seen, and read too many things over the years. For an interesting vein use an alternative search engine and dig onto the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Dark stuff.
@sj_zero This thread reminds me of Rudolf Steiner's concepts of Ahriman and Lucifer. Two devils. Two kinds of evil. And Adam (man) is in between them, holding them at bay.
It's supposed to represent something like the golden mean IIRC.
It's supposed to represent something like the golden mean IIRC.
@sj_zero IIRC Ahrimanic evil is what you called Satanic, and Luciferic is what you called Molochian. But it was a long time since I heard about it so I could be getting it completely wrong.